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Merkel, Sark, McCain, various euroweenies, and now an ayatollah even calls a spade a spade. And Obama, meanwhile....
1 posted on 06/16/2009 6:44:12 PM PDT by pissant
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Is this guy the real deal or does “most senior” just mean he’s an old retired dude?

Seems pretty huge either way.


2 posted on 06/16/2009 6:47:10 PM PDT by icwhatudo (For every clinic bombed or burned, 17 to 18 churches are burned down. MSM? MSM?)
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Well the one thing we can be sure of the imposter in chief Obama is not on the side that supports Freedom and Liberty the words are foreign to him.


3 posted on 06/16/2009 6:49:02 PM PDT by Typical_Whitey (The Obama constituents : "You are about to be ruled by the Black Man Cracker")
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Wow. This could be big, methinks.


5 posted on 06/16/2009 6:54:52 PM PDT by WVRockDJ (Mountaineer by birth; USMC by choice; Christian by Grace.)
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Is this the reason Amanutjob is in Russia?


6 posted on 06/16/2009 6:55:30 PM PDT by BARLF
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How does Ahmadinejad and his supporting clerics stay in power? No one seems on his side except the idiot Basij.


7 posted on 06/16/2009 6:56:17 PM PDT by popdonnelly (The greatest crimes in history have been perpetrated by governments. You've been warned.)
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This is a matter little different from the Czech people being given a choice by Hitler of Dirlewanger or Heydrich with most choosing Dirlewanger even though the rigged tally showed Heydrich the winner.

What's the difference both candidates were chosen by Hitler.

I actually think the ayatollah overturning the results would be a bad thing as Hussein would then declare the dawn of a new era in US - Iran relations. Meanwhile the nuclear weapons program would continue like never before.

11 posted on 06/16/2009 7:07:27 PM PDT by fso301
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Merkel, Sark, McCain, various euroweenies, and now an ayatollah even calls a spade a spade. And Obama, meanwhile...

Obama does not appear to identify with Western ideas about liberty, government, democracy. He appears to be more sympatico with people like Ahmadinejad, Chavez, Ortega.

14 posted on 06/16/2009 7:18:15 PM PDT by BusterBear
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While I’m very pleased to watch internal political strife undermine the legitimacy of Islamic theocracy in Iran, I think we really need this stop a minute, take a deep breath, and ask ourselves why we should be backing either faction.

Neither is friendly to American policy in the Mideast (Mousavi is one of the chief supporters of Hamas in Iran), both support continuation of the Iranian nuclear program, and neither envisions any kind of fundamental reform of the Iranian political system to something closer to western secular democracy.

The biggest difference between them is that they represent somewhat different factions of the reigning Iranian political elite: Ahmadinejad represents the portions of the military and clerical establishment who believe that Islamic revolutionary purity mandates massive redistribution of resources toward the poor (you can think of him as sort of a Iranian Chavez in this respect), while Montazeri represents a sort of quasi-fascistic fusion of the most corrupt segments of the Iranian Rich, the massive business interests of Revolutionary Guards, and the worldly segments of the clergy.

Both groups are somewhere between political parties and mafias, and neither group has any interest at all in surrendering power to something more close resembling a representative government, in terms of advancing American interests in a very real sense we might as well be trying to choose for example between various factions of Hamas or Hezbollah. All we can be certain of is that if we try to back one faction over the other were are unlikely to be satisfied whatever the outcome, so the smart thing to do is to produce general statements of support for the will of the Iranian people (and indeed, the will of large numbers of Iranians will be thwarted whatever the outcome) without trapping ourselves into appearing to the Iranian people to be backing either faction of their oppressors.

Which, it seems to me, is pretty much the current US policy, and IMO the best of the bad choices under the circumstances.


16 posted on 06/16/2009 7:43:05 PM PDT by M. Dodge Thomas
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IRANIANS DON’T VOTE

So Obama could care less about them


26 posted on 06/17/2009 1:20:59 AM PDT by dennisw ("stealth tribal warfare" is what the Sotomayor nomination is about)
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