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EMT Who Fought With Oklahoma Trooper Wants Officer to Lose Badge
AP (via FOX News) ^ | June 16, 2009

Posted on 06/16/2009 1:10:08 PM PDT by Eddings

OKLAHOMA CITY — The paramedic who scuffled with an Oklahoma highway police officer while a patient waited inside the ambulance says the trooper should lose his badge.

Maurice White Jr. said Tuesday on the CBS "Early Show" that trooper Daniel Martin was in a state of rage when he stopped his ambulance and totally disregarded the patient's safety.

Martin stopped the ambulance May 24 for failing to yield.

White says he got out of the ambulance to tell the trooper they were taking a patient to the hospital. The argument quickly escalated into a scuffle and Martin put White in a choke hold.

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TOPICS: Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: Oklahoma
KEYWORDS: cop; donutwatch; emt; leo
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To: Bulldawg Fan

No links? We should just take your word for it?


21 posted on 06/16/2009 1:32:52 PM PDT by Nephi (Support Fascism: Buy GE, GM and Chrysler products!)
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To: thefactor
There are two videos. The State Police released the video made using the dash camera (really cute stuff), and the video made by the son of the victim (in the ambulance) was released earlier. Try yesterday's board to get the URLs on those two if someone doesn't report them here.

Basically this is occuring in rural Oklahoma outside of Tulsa and nowhere. It's an 8 county area consisting of The Creek Nation reservation and various governmental bodies with overlapping jurisdictions.

The story is that the Creek Nation ambulance was taking a patient to the community hospital. There was little or no traffic on the highway, few driveways or civilian entrances along the way, and NO REASON AT ALL to turn on the lights and siren.

A state trooper responding to a call was barreling along the highway and came upon an ambulance just behind an automobile. He had his lights and siren on. The car pulled to the side to let the trooper pass, as did the ambulance, but ahead of the car.

The ambulance requires 22% more stop time than any vehicle of the same weight and configuration AND it was far larger than the car. No question the ambulance could not have just pulled off behind the car. However, we are talking about 6 seconds of travel time from the moment the patrol car was clearly in the view of the car ahead (and the ambulance) and the time the trooper got even with the ambulance ~ by that time the ambulance was off on the side of the road.

For a variety of unexplained reasons the trooper decided to write up a ticket on the ambulance driver and to choke the EMT.

We have a pool going ~ will the trooper be canned, or will he be promoted.

It's dollars to doughnuts!

22 posted on 06/16/2009 1:33:01 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Bulldawg Fan

I saw a cop that loves the power the badge provides.
They way he grabbed that EMT by the neck, he thought he was untouchable.


23 posted on 06/16/2009 1:33:33 PM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: NEMDF

The ambulance is NOT REQUIRED to have lights and sirens going at the discretion of the EMT. There was a patient on board and virtually no one on the highway. They were progressing ahead at the speed limit. Several Freepers tracked down OK law on the matter. Everything was kosher from the standpoint of the ambulance driver.


24 posted on 06/16/2009 1:34:21 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Bulldawg Fan

I’ve seen the full video and I believe the office should be fired. (Along with the DA who refused to press charges against the rouge cop)


25 posted on 06/16/2009 1:34:26 PM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: Eddings
You diss the cop the cop gets Pissed, need to fire this one and let him move on to the garbage collection division.
26 posted on 06/16/2009 1:35:54 PM PDT by org.whodat
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To: Drango
Did you check how strong EMT White was? I want that guy down the street with the Springfield Fire Department. He peeled that officer off of him and I swear he could have snapped both his arms off like he was some kind of grasshopper!

But he didn't.

27 posted on 06/16/2009 1:36:21 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Bulldawg Fan

When you lick jackboots, how does it taste?


28 posted on 06/16/2009 1:37:53 PM PDT by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: Bulldawg Fan; Eddings
Eddings, don't believe Bulldawg Fan. Guy is misrepresenting what the dashboard cam shows.

Fact is the evidence is the ambulance driver followed all required procedures and laws ~ the Prosecutor refuses to move ahead on the trooper's complaint in fact.

You can call up the cop's own video and do the timing yourself.

29 posted on 06/16/2009 1:38:34 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Nephi
http://www.foxnews.com/video2/video08.html?maven_referralObject=5960106&maven_referralPlaylistId=&sRevUrl=http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,526681,00.html

The EMT was beligerent and looking for a fight.

30 posted on 06/16/2009 1:39:03 PM PDT by SunTzuWu
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White says he got out of the ambulance to tell the trooper they were taking a patient to the hospital. The argument quickly escalated into a scuffle and Martin put White in a choke hold.



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31 posted on 06/16/2009 1:39:04 PM PDT by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: fatima
No he went a step to far when he put his hands on the man's neck instead of backing off. The cop was out of control and should be fired.
32 posted on 06/16/2009 1:39:14 PM PDT by org.whodat
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To: SJSAMPLE

“I saw a cop that loves the power the badge provides.
They way he grabbed that EMT by the neck, he thought he was untouchable.”

Agreed. I like to side with the LEO’s, but this one doesn’t deserve it.


33 posted on 06/16/2009 1:39:29 PM PDT by AuntB (The right to vote in America: Blacks 1870; Women 1920; Native Americans 1925; Foreigners 2008)
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To: Bulldawg Fan

I think you need to read up on the details of this incident, including the statements from both of the troopers who were on the scene. The only video I’ve seen is the dashcam video, and between than and reading all the information available, it’s clear that the trooper was totally out of control and had no business stopping the ambulance at all. It’s also clear from the second trooper’s statement that he couldn’t figure out why the ambulance had been stopped either.

And there’s some very weird suppression going on of the little fact that the offending trooper’s wife was in his patrol car throughout this whole saga. It’s been mentioned in just enough places to confirm it’s really true, but there’s never any explanation at all of what she was doing there. Her presence is not at all irrelevant to the story, because the paramedic initially thought the trooper must be stopping the ambulance because the woman in his patrol car needed urgent medical assistance.


34 posted on 06/16/2009 1:39:35 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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The PC crowd is doing all it can to railroad the officer by using one frame of the officer holding the neck of the attendant.

I don't know what part of Police Academy teaches them to choke ambulance drivers.

35 posted on 06/16/2009 1:40:29 PM PDT by Rio (Don't make me come over there....)
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To: Eddings; thefactor; NEMDF; mrsdeb; Dan(9698); GeronL; a fool in paradise; Drango
Here is a link to the cop in questions recently released dashcam video, and a link to the original video taken by the woman in the ambulances family. The long and short of it is the cop is some kind of control freak, that seems to think he is god.

Another example of our country is in trouble. You have to wonder what happened to "protect & serve"?

36 posted on 06/16/2009 1:41:02 PM PDT by Clovis_Skeptic (The answer to 1984 is 1776!)
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To: Bulldawg Fan
But police rarely get favorable attention from the media. And this officer is on leave because his family is being threatened by brave liberals (no doubt) and he wants to be at home to provide protection.

BS, he's on administrative leave pending an investigation. They let them decide if it is voluntary are involuntary.

37 posted on 06/16/2009 1:41:55 PM PDT by org.whodat
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To: GovernmentShrinker

well, that sheds a whole new light on things....I wondered why the medic stepped out of his rig.


38 posted on 06/16/2009 1:43:40 PM PDT by tioga
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To: SunTzuWu
The EMT was responsible for two things ~ patient care and conduct of the driver. It was the cop's legal responsibility to address the issue to the EMT, not the driver.

In fact, if the cop had arrested the driver and hauled him away the EMT would not have been able to take the patient to the hospital since hopping in the seat and driving away is considered "abandonment of the patient under care".

So, yeah, even if there'd been a violation, which there hadn't been (according to the cop's own video), the correct course of action was to allow the EMT to proceed ahead to the hospital with his patient. That hospital is quite near the place the cop stopped the ambulance anyway. He could have followed behind, and all would have been well.

The cop, though, is reported to have had his WIFE in his car in violation of state rules.

39 posted on 06/16/2009 1:43:52 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Clovis_Skeptic

A link to the paramedics report on the incident.

http://s3.amazonaws.com/content.newsok.com/documents/j12emtnarrative1.pdf


40 posted on 06/16/2009 1:43:52 PM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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