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Ohioans ticketed for parking in own driveways
AP on Yahoo ^ | 6/16/09 | AP

Posted on 06/16/2009 10:05:28 AM PDT by NormsRevenge

TOLEDO, Ohio – Residents of Toledo, Ohio, are complaining that they received $25 tickets for parking their vehicles in their own driveways.

Mayor Carty Finkbeiner (FINK'-by-ner) says he stands by the citations handed out last week by the Division of Streets, Bridges and Harbor. He says the tickets were issued under a city law against parking on unpaved surfaces, including gravel driveways.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: democrat; driveways; fink; finkbeiner; holytoledo; nannystate; ohio; ohioans; parking; privateproperty; propertyrights; revenuetickets; taxandspend; ticketed; toledo
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To: Choose Ye This Day
My grandparents never had a paved driveway.

Until I was most of the way through 3rd grade, we didn't have a paved driveway or paved street. The driveway was crushed rock, the street gravel. Worked fine, except it was hard to shovel out in the winter. The part of the city (of ~100,000) that we lived in had been built up since at least the early 1900s, most of the other nearby streets were paved, but not ours.

Our garage was constructed of reclaimed railroad boxcar panels. The fence around our dog run was contructed of the cross pieces from old railroad telegraph poles, san insulators, but with the "pegs" the insulators sat on serving as horizonatal "slats" for the fence. Did I mention that my Dad was a World Champion scrounger?

61 posted on 06/16/2009 11:06:33 AM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: driftless2
I guess George Harrison’s lyrics in “Taxman” about being fined/taxed for breathing will eventually come true.

Of course, it'll be a "green" tax, since you do emit carbon dioxide with every breath. You'll need to purchase some "carbon credits" for that.

Meanwhile, stock up on lead, copper, brass and nitrocellulose credits.

62 posted on 06/16/2009 11:09:00 AM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: M203M4; Eric Blair 2084

>>a moving motor vehicle without driver and passengers wearing a helmet

hey, Eric, someone else agrees with me.

Though I do like some of your other suggestions, too.

In fact, Boston is now on the verge of a 25 feet of a commerical establishment ban on smokers, including entrances to bars, nightclubs and restaurants. The restaurant outdoor patio ban is pending.

My other suggestion is banning all smoking in cars; the violations will be numerous and the revenue stream rather lucrative.


63 posted on 06/16/2009 11:09:31 AM PDT by swarthyguy ("We may be crazy in Pakistan, but not completely out of our minds," ISI Gen. Ahmed Shujaa Pasha)
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To: Brookhaven
Hopefully a judge will throw this out.

Could somebody play the environmental angle and counter sue the city?

The issue would be increased runoff caused by paving. A gravel drive absorbs and holds rainwater. Flooding is attributed to sealing areas of surface. I don't know the terrain out there, but flooding and water quality make viable arguments.

They city might counter that oil leaks would be absorbed into the ground, but the counter would be the oil would be carried by the runoff.

64 posted on 06/16/2009 11:10:18 AM PDT by tsomer
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To: NormsRevenge

Need any further evidence our country is well onto the back nine?


65 posted on 06/16/2009 11:12:01 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Impeach President Soros!!!)
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To: El Gato
Our garage was constructed of reclaimed railroad boxcar panels. The fence around our dog run was contructed of the cross pieces from old railroad telegraph poles, san insulators, but with the "pegs" the insulators sat on serving as horizonatal "slats" for the fence. Did I mention that my Dad was a World Champion scrounger?

But even in third grade, I had the free run of the neighborhood. Now parents won't let their sixth graders walk around the block with others of their age group. Yea, things have improved sooo much. NOT!

66 posted on 06/16/2009 11:12:05 AM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: M203M4

And...

$10 added to your yearly property taxes for every square foot exceeding government (and/or UN) specifications on allowable space per occupant in your home. This may, of course, be somewhat mitigated by a purchase of carbon credits from Crazy Al’s Carbon Credit Emporium.


67 posted on 06/16/2009 11:19:55 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Impeach President Soros!!!)
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To: a fool in paradise

In CA, it is already illegal to smoke (a cigarette) with a minor in the car, subject to $100 fine.


68 posted on 06/16/2009 11:19:56 AM PDT by La Enchiladita ("You ain't seen nuthin' yet!!," B. Hussein Obama, the 20th Hijacker)
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To: swarthyguy

And think of all the jobs that would be created!

We would need people with rulers to measure distances (and another set of people to double-check for quality control), people watching cameras placed in public washrooms to monitor hand washing (and then SWAT teams to swoop in to ticket the offender), road checkpoints to look for the unhelmeted, for people smoking with children in the car and/or windows open, and for gadgets of mass distraction). For some offenses, an ACORN-inspired army of accredited community activists could receive micro-compensation (10% of collected fine) for snitching on law breakers.

A stimulus more stimulating than a well-placed cattle prod.


69 posted on 06/16/2009 11:24:25 AM PDT by M203M4 (A rainbow-excreting government-cheese-pie-eating unicorn in every pot.)
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To: M203M4
- $20 fine for throwing recyclable waste into a landfill-bound receptacle, per 0.1 ounce

Where I live, lately the garbage men have been emptying the recycle bins. The garbage truck rolls through in the morning and takes EVERYTHING, then the recycle truck comes along in the afternoon and has nothing to do.

70 posted on 06/16/2009 11:31:31 AM PDT by Disambiguator
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To: NormsRevenge

Somebody should point out to him that gravel driveways meet the new stormwater permeability standards being sold to cities as a way to clean up their wastewater.


71 posted on 06/16/2009 11:36:34 AM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, then writes again.)
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To: NormsRevenge
"No need to thank me..just doing my job."


72 posted on 06/16/2009 11:37:57 AM PDT by BerniesFriend (no no..arrrrwwwhhh..as in surprise..)
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To: NormsRevenge

One way or another, you’re going to pay for this “hope” and “change”....


73 posted on 06/16/2009 11:56:51 AM PDT by Tzimisce (Socialism is the worst kind of Pollution.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Paved driveway parking only? WTF??? Am I missing something?


74 posted on 06/16/2009 12:29:03 PM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: BerniesFriend

LOL


75 posted on 06/16/2009 12:29:25 PM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: NormsRevenge
And if you are drinking a beer, cleaning the interior of your car with the stereo on (the keys in the ignition, engine NOT running) you will be charged with a DUI.

Of course, this is likely true in YOUR city, town as well.

76 posted on 06/16/2009 1:11:55 PM PDT by Leo Farnsworth (I'm not really Leo Farnsworth...)
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To: a fool in paradise

“Let me know when they get like California and propse criminalizing tobacco use at home and in the car if you have kids.”

Oh, I am sure it is in the works. It’s for the chillrun.


77 posted on 06/16/2009 1:13:01 PM PDT by CSM (Business is too big too fail... Government is too big to succeed... I am too small to matter...)
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To: Leo Farnsworth

“And if you are drinking a beer, cleaning the interior of your car with the stereo on (the keys in the ignition, engine NOT running) you will be charged with a DUI.”

You forgot to add that you are cleaning your car while it is parked in your private driveway. Privelege to drive on public roads be dammed!


78 posted on 06/16/2009 1:18:21 PM PDT by CSM (Business is too big too fail... Government is too big to succeed... I am too small to matter...)
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To: NormsRevenge
I had to read this twice just to make sure it wasn't a joke and then check the date to make sure it wasn't April 1st. I've seen quite a lot, but this is a level of insanity I've not seen very often in my lifetime.

In Arizona, we lived on a gravel road, had a dirt driveway and no garage, same for most of the neighbors. If any of us had gotten a citation for parking on our own property per instruction from the mayor, the mayor would have had to immediately relocate out of state. I've not even heard about busy body HOA types who'd try something this crazy.

79 posted on 06/16/2009 1:24:56 PM PDT by GBA
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To: GBA

We went thru much the same thing here in san jose a few years back, they didn’t want any more parking areas added at your home or paved front yards to be put in ,,

Heck , here, they don’t want vehicles sitting in one spot on the streets for more than so many days, ya have to move them, running or not. it’s silly but..

This is just one more nip at the rights of owners of private property. but there are some limits that are good, no car parts&carcasses graveyard on the front and rear lawn for one. ;-)


80 posted on 06/16/2009 1:49:17 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed.)
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