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Shah's son sees echoes of 1979 in Iran
ap ^ | 6/15/09 | afp

Posted on 06/15/2009 3:07:32 PM PDT by Flavius

The son of Iran's late shah said Monday he saw echoes of the 1979 Islamic Revolution that overthrew his father as massive crowds took to the streets against the disputed re-election of President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.

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KEYWORDS: ahmadinejad; iran; rezapahlavi; shah
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To: rodguy911

Well, it’s certainly history in the making.

Never has a nation on earth, done so much to destroy itself in such a short period of time.


41 posted on 06/15/2009 4:24:28 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Obama post 09/11. The U.S. is sorry, we are a Muslim nation, and we surrender.)
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To: DoughtyOne

Exactly and the frustrating part is there is little we can do in the immediate future except trying to tank his popularity numbers which is slowly beginning to happen.


42 posted on 06/15/2009 4:27:30 PM PDT by rodguy911 (HOME OF THE FREE BECAUSE OF THE BRAVE--GO SARAHCUDA !!)
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To: rodguy911

I honestly think he’s been a big help there.

People may be deaf, blind, and dumb, but at some point something is going to register, and wake them up.

If it doesn’t, the nation was done for anyway.

Seeing evil personified, will either wake people up so that we have a new lease on life, or it will get this over with quickly.

Perhaps that’s to fatalistic, but it’s how I see it.


43 posted on 06/15/2009 4:30:48 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Obama post 09/11. The U.S. is sorry, we are a Muslim nation, and we surrender.)
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To: rodguy911
I don't recall any bribes being offered to Carter. There were plenty of US contractors in Iran. In 1978 there were over 70,000 Americans in Iran doing business. I have no doubt that Carter may have tried to push some GA firms for business dealings in Iran. Lots of money was flowing in Iran flush with oil money.

What prompted Carter's actions had more to do with his human rights policy than any offer of bribes. If you recall, we had thousands of Iranian students in the US demonstrating in front of the WH with bags over their heads calling for the removal of the Shah and more human rights in Iran. At the time, there were over 50,000 Iranian students in the US, more than any other country in the world.

Carter believed that human rights should be the most important factor driving our foreign policy. He dismissed "real politic" as being unreprsentative of this country even if our national interests were at stake. In a word, Carter was dangerously naive.

The stakes in Iran were high. Iran was a major ally in the region. It had oil, lots of opportunties for American businesses and for the sale of American weapons. The Shah was pro-American. There was even an Israeli trade mission in Tehran. We had over 1,000 official Americans in Iran in 1978, including those along the Caspian monitoring Soviet nuclear tests. Iran was critical to US national interests, but Carter was so involved in the Camp David Peace Accords that he wasn't paying attention to what was happening in Iran.

Carter and Vance believed that they could ease the Shah out and deal with the new democratic government that replaced him. They did not understand the power of the mullahs and their ability to hijack the Revolution. So the unintended consequence was clearing the way for Khomeini to take power. And human rights under Khomeini and subsequently are far worse than under the Shah. And the cruelest cut of all has been Iran's initiation and funding of militant Islamic fundamentalism around the globe, which has killed many Americans. A nuclear armed Iran presents a real danger for the region and us.

Our policy should be regime change. Instead, Obama has been legitimizing the current regime by offering to deal with it. Obama now has a golden opportunity to send a signal to the Iranian opposition that we support their struggle. I doubt he will do that preferring to negotiate with the current regime.

44 posted on 06/15/2009 4:38:49 PM PDT by kabar
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To: DoughtyOne
The islamification of Europe is real and a problem for many European countries. Canada is also being inundated with the same philosophy.
45 posted on 06/15/2009 7:45:22 PM PDT by NY Attitude (Make love not war but be prepared for either.)
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To: rodguy911

Noooooo sweat. That wasn’t the only thing that jimmuh tried to get the Shah to do. I will have to reach into the recesses of my memory.


46 posted on 06/15/2009 7:47:30 PM PDT by NY Attitude (Make love not war but be prepared for either.)
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http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2002/5/12/164726.shtml


47 posted on 06/15/2009 7:48:25 PM PDT by novemberslady
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To: drjimmy

huh? Saddam treated people equal?


48 posted on 06/15/2009 10:06:36 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric cartman voice* 'I love you guys')
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To: NY Attitude

I agree. It’s amazing to watch the Islamacists say jump, and the governments ask how high.


49 posted on 06/16/2009 9:27:32 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Obama post 09/11. The U.S. is sorry, we are a Muslim nation, and we surrender.)
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To: Steve Van Doorn
huh? Saddam treated people equal?

Saddam got rid of Sharia law and secularized Iraq, giving women rights they didn't have in any other Persian Gulf country. One of the reasons the U.S. supported Saddam during the 1980s was because he stood against the threat of radical Islam. That's why there wasn't much difference between Iraq under Saddam and Iran under the Shah--each developed a Westernized society while security forces kept order by torturing and killing internal political opponents.
50 posted on 06/16/2009 9:28:43 AM PDT by drjimmy
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