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Watch Netanyahu live from Bar-Ilan University [1:00 pm Eastern]
America's Independent Party ^ | June 14, 2009

Posted on 06/14/2009 7:53:39 AM PDT by EternalVigilance

Watch live broadcast of Benjamin Netanyahu's speech on the internet HERE from Bar-Ilan University in Israel.

10:00 a.m. Pacific, 1:00 p.m. Eastern


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; Israel
KEYWORDS: israel; netanyahu
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To: bray
Yep, (Bill) Clinton and (Ehud) Barak attempted to give away (almost) the entire store, and Arafat and Co. didn't take the deal. Bibi offered a miniscule fraction of what was offered a decade ago, and odds are it'll still be rejected. ...for same reasons. The goal of the regional Islamists is to destroy Israel, and keeping the status quo gives them their best chance.
301 posted on 06/14/2009 5:30:44 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: Mr. Mojo
Is anyone noticing how the MSM is trying to spin today's speech like Bibi made concessions to Obama? Bibi may as well have said, "when the arabs declare me king of the world, then we can have a palestinian state," because the little he asked of them they will not be able to comply with, as they never have before.


302 posted on 06/14/2009 6:14:15 PM PDT by Cinnamon Girl (G-d Bless President Bush. He kept us safe.)
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To: penelopesire

” ... guy with the gun is hot! ...”

My thoughts exactly ;-) Of course (ahem) he does look a little like my DH


303 posted on 06/14/2009 6:14:15 PM PDT by Cloverfarm (Where are we going, and why are we in a hand-basket?)
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To: forkinsocket; null and void; Beckwith; stockpirate; pissant; PhilDragoo; Candor7; MeekOneGOP; ...
That we needed a land because we are persecuted (acceptable) but no right to make the Palestinians pay for it by taking their land (unacceptable).

Concocting an outrageous fiction and total fabrication about a non-distinct group of nomadic and transient Arabs falsely called "Palestinians" (unacceptable) that went to live for free (unacceptable) where the Zionists drained swamps, leveled sand dunes, irrigated deserts, built gardens, roads, stores, homes in what was uninhabitable land purchased by Jews for exhorbitant prices in the ancestral home of Israel (acceptable but highway robbery), sixteen years after five Arab nations refused the UN partition plan for an independent Arab state (unacceptable) launched an unprovoked War to exterminate all Jews (unacceptable) and created the "refugee" problem for 738,000 "Palestinians" urged to leave from the Jewish settlements by the Arabs (unacceptable), even though the Zionists begged them to stay (acceptable to one million "Palestinians" who stayed) while these same Arab countries expelled over 860,000 Jews without their possessions (unacceptable), and refused to allow their "Palestinian" "brothers" to resettle in any of their Arab land (unacceptable), while Israel absorbed all 860,000 Jews (acceptable) as well as the "one million Arabs" who went to live side-by-side with the Zionists (acceptable), on land that was never theirs to begin with, and then for the next twenty years, the Arab nations of Egypt and Jordan brutally occupied and oppressed the 738,000 refugees who fled to Gaza and the West Bank (unacceptable), forcing them to live in squalid "refugee" camps (unacceptable), until Arafat and the PLO correctly labeled the nation of Transjordan, now Jordan, as the independent "Palestinian" state (acceptable), but when King Hussein fearing a coup, put down the Palestinian rebellion, exiled Arafat and the PLO to Lebanon, (acceptable), but then, after a 1956 War to again exterminate Jews (unacceptable), and then another war in 1967, which they lost (acceptable), and also lost Gaza and the West Bank which was intended to be the Jewish national homeland (acceptable) and the many Palestinians who lived in Gaza and West Bank prospered and had the highest standard of living of any Middle East country (acceptable) covering all of what was the sovereign nation of Israel over 3,000 years before this mythology was ever created, before the Romans unacceptably destroyed Jerusalem and Israel, before the Moslems unacceptably captured them, before the Crusades acceptably recaptured the Holy Land, only to lose it again (unacceptible) to the Moselm Ottoman Empire (unacceptable), before the Arabs launched their pogroms against Jewish settlers (unacceptable), before there ever was a "right of return" (unacceptable), before the UN classified anyone living in Isreal TWO DAYS BEFORE THE WAR OF EXTERMINIATION as a "refugee" (totally unacceptable) and who created UNWRA, the only permanant refugee program and one populated and run by terrorists (unacceptable), and where two million illegal Arab immigrants moved into camps and built illegal settlements in the West Bank and Jerusalem (unacceptable) who had descendents now also labeled as "refugees" (unacceptable), and from which followed one failed peace planafter another because Palestinians DO NOT WANT PEACE NOR DO THEY WANT A JEWISH PRESENCE IN THE MIDDLE EAST (way freakin' unacceptable!!!)

Or, something like that.

304 posted on 06/14/2009 6:15:54 PM PDT by Polarik (It's the forgery, Stupid!)
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To: Cinnamon Girl
Exactly, CG. The headlines made it seem like Bibi complied with every last one of Obama's wishes. The MSM spins Obama diplomatic victories in their sleep. The chance the Arabs accept the deal that's on the table? Zero.

The Mideast will chew up B.O. and spit him out.

305 posted on 06/14/2009 6:25:42 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: Polarik
...the UN classified anyone living in Isreal TWO DAYS BEFORE THE WAR OF EXTERMINIATION as a "refugee" (totally unacceptable) and who created UNWRA, the only permanant refugee program and one populated and run by terrorists (unacceptable), and where two million illegal Arab immigrants moved into camps and built illegal settlements in the West Bank and Jerusalem (unacceptable) who had descendents now also labeled as "refugees" (unacceptable), and from which followed one failed peace plan after another because Palestinians DO NOT WANT PEACE NOR DO THEY WANT A JEWISH PRESENCE IN THE MIDDLE EAST (way freakin' unacceptable!!!)

AND IF THE UN (UNWRA) HADN'T BEEN SUPPORTING AND FEEDING THE VERY PEOPLE WHOSE CHARTER HAS AS ITS PRIMARY AMBITION THE ELIMINATION OF ISRAEL, THERE WOULD BE NO ARAB 'REFUGEES'!

306 posted on 06/14/2009 6:34:22 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: Polarik
OK. I copied that and pasted it into a document and added a line break after every "unacceptable" or "acceptable".

Now it almost makes sense.

I think...

307 posted on 06/14/2009 6:40:01 PM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 146 of our national holiday from reality.)
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To: penelopesire

He’d be HOT without the gun! :-)


308 posted on 06/14/2009 6:42:37 PM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: Polarik
Islamic concepts of “taqiyya” and “hudna.”

A lying terrorist who fakes a cease fire in order to rearm.
Did I pass? :-)

309 posted on 06/14/2009 6:46:00 PM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: Polarik

It doesn’t matter how many Palestinians lived there. There could have been one or there could have been millions. It’s still our land. It doesn’t matter how advanced or primitive they were. Live in caves or skyscrapers. It’s still our land. It doesn’t matter whether the Arab neighbors are friendliest people in the world or trying to kill us on a daily basis. It doesn’t matter whether Jews drained swamps or turned good land into swamps. It doesn’t matter how popular or unpopular Palestinians are. It doesn’t matter who conquered what from whom. It doesn’t matter if Jews are the most persecuted people in the world or the rulers of the earth. It doesn’t matter if Palestinians are Muslims or Yazidis or Buddhists. It doesn’t matter if they love Jews or hate Jews. It’s still our land & ours alone.

There is no debate about it. Israel’s reason for existing doesn’t hinge on the results of a census or Ottoman land records or the proper distribution of musha3 land or the behavior of Muslims or the holocaust. It’s ours because this is our holy land, & this will remain the same under any circumstances. The only justification Israel needs is in Torah. Everything else comes last.


310 posted on 06/14/2009 7:24:33 PM PDT by forkinsocket
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To: Cinnamon Girl; Polarik
Both these pictures are from signs posted all over Israel

I argued with a friend of mine for nearly two hours over this. Bibi 's speech, without the ONE short paragraph appearing to endorse a PA state, was nearly perfect. But that short paragraph is what the world takes away, and it makes Netanyahu look like he caved and it allowed Obama to save face in the muslim world.

There are no "palestinians." How in the world does a polygenous population of junkyard dogs from every islamonation in or out of the region qualify as either a culture or a "people" deserving of their own state?

They DON'T. And Bibi NEVER should have even intimated that they did.

HEADLINES
1. JERUSALEM (AP) - Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu endorsed a Palestinian state beside Israel for the first time on Sunday,

2. Netanyahu bows to Obama, accepts Palestinian "state"
Obama called Netanyahu's shift in position on Palestinian statehood as an "important step forward,"

3. Binyamin Netanyahu threw down the gauntlet to the US last night, grudgingly agreeing to a limited Palestinian state

4. Obama welcomes Netanyahu's two-state speech

5. WASHINGTON - The White House is welcoming Prime Minster Benjamin Netanyahu's call for the creation of a Palestinian state.

6. Netanyahu backs creation of Palestinian state

7. The prime minister endorsed the creation of a Palestinian state that would exist alongside Israel for the first time on Sunday.

8. Likud hardliners slam Netanyahu speech as too soft, Arab MKs say it was too right-wing, and Labor appears largely content

9. Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's address drew varied remarks from both left and right-wing officials Sunday. Rightists responded warmly to his attitude towards the settlements, but were apprehensive about his support of a Palestinian state

10, Much-Awaited Address
Netanyahu backs creation of Palestinian state

11. Prime minister endorses creation of Palestinian state but stresses any such entity will have to be demilitarized and acknowledge Israel as a Jewish nation

12. Netanyahu calls for demilitarized Palestinian state
Obama: Speech an important step forward.

REALITY:
SPEECH
The Palestinian state
If we receive this guarantee regarding demilitirization and Israel’s security needs, and if the Palestinians recognize Israel as the State of the Jewish people, then we will be ready in a future peace agreement to reach a solution where a demilitarized Palestinian state exists alongside the Jewish state.

From THIS text, out of the ENTIRE speech, these headlines ignored everything else...exactly like I KNEW they would. Obama takes credit, like I KNEW he would.
Amd I am still pissed! He should never have said it. Period.

311 posted on 06/14/2009 8:10:43 PM PDT by MestaMachine (I don't have a novel or insightful tagline. At this point, words fail me.)
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To: MestaMachine

I hear you. And yet, there is this:

Netanyahu, Mideast peace and a return to the Axis of Evil

The prime minister’s speech last night returned the Middle East to the days of George W. Bush’s “axis of evil.” Benjamin Netanyahu delivered a patriarchal, colonialist address in the best neoconservative tradition: The Arabs are the bad guys, or at best ungrateful terrorists; the Jews, of course, are the good guys, rational people who need to raise and care for their children. In the West Bank settlement of Itamar, they’re even building a nursery school.

— you see, the left actually does get it. They know what Bibi really said.


312 posted on 06/14/2009 8:55:38 PM PDT by Cinnamon Girl (G-d Bless President Bush. He kept us safe.)
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To: Cinnamon Girl
The Arabs are the bad guys, or at best ungrateful terrorists; the Jews, of course, are the good guys, rational people who need to raise and care for their children. In the West Bank settlement of Itamar, they’re even building a nursery school.

Snarky ain't it? How do they do it? I mean how do they, in every way, manage to state truth/reality as if it is fiction?
Sick SOBs.

313 posted on 06/14/2009 9:01:06 PM PDT by MestaMachine (I don't have a novel or insightful tagline. At this point, words fail me.)
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To: Rushmore Rocks

Yep!


314 posted on 06/14/2009 9:32:58 PM PDT by Brad’s Gramma (BG x 2)
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