Posted on 06/11/2009 10:38:35 AM PDT by Dayton3
Why does everyone insist on the GOP reaching out to Hispanic and black voters?
Sure, non Hispanic whites will be the minority in the U.S. (though by far the LARGEST minority) in the 2040-2050 time frame.
But there are a lot of presidential elections between now and then.
If the GOP increased its take of white votes from 58% (2004) or 55% (2008) to 70% or better, then it could win virtually any election with little minority support.
And why as so many claim would it be racist?
Is it racist when 94% of black voters vote for the Democratic candidate or 80% of Hispanic voters go Democratic?
Why waste the time and resources on making minor inroads among blacks and Hispanics when the GOP could start a quest to secure more white votes from a position of strength?
Regardless of sex, race, or creed...
You know, like our Republic was designed to do.
Protestant Hispanics do, Bush got 56% of their vote in 2004 and McCain/Palin got 48% of their vote in 2008, they are definitely open to the republican party.
The GOP should attract voters based on issues, not race. There are parties out there that will embrace racism, the GOP shouldn't be one of the. It may come as a shock, but lots of whites don't like racists, thus a racist appeal won't work. Thanks for bringing it up at a time FR is being accused of racism.
Courting votes on a racial basis, white, yellow, brown or black, is evil.
The GOP needs to state their principles, explain how they will benefit the nation and its citizens and stand by them. They should avoid addressing racist groups like La Raza and the NAA(L)CP simply because they ARE racist. They should denounce people courting these groups as the racists they are.
Hear hear.
The Democrats have them so segmented and brain washed, they seem deaf to the conservative message, but they're still worth fighting for.
I presume you'd advocate a change from the GOP's pro-life position, since you won't get 70% of white women without it.
I agree. I volunteer with many black and hispanic folks that are every bit as conservative as I am. Why support doing anything that would make them feel unwelcome? Conservatism is open to anyone who has common sense and decent values no matter what color they are.
You sound like a newbie racist troll! Scat - go away.
A lot of whites voted Obama as feeing themselves of guilt, expecting to feel good about themselves.
Now that the black they have placed on the pedestal has been proven incompetent (along with some others that come to mind like Holder, Powell, Steele, Burris, Paterson, Patrick) it would seem that whites may think again on voting their feelings instead of their minds.
Definitely true if another 9/11 occurs, as incompetency in POTUS after all does have consequences.
Most conservatives understand that the point of the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution (as amended) is to apply all principles to each and every person individually regardless of race, creed, color...etc.
The political advantage of this is that these principles do, in fact, cross racial and other group lines. The strength of the Constitution is what conservatives have - every single person is a minority of one and so is equally protected by our Constitution and our laws.
The rest is race/gender/whatever group baiting at best. We teach conservative principles to everyone, we end up with a majority of voters.
Why don’t we just forget about skin color and just tell everyone why Conservative principles are good for all 300 million Americans?
well said, couldn’t have said it better myself!
I’m no fan of identity politics myself.
But it is a useful tool that the other side uses. And I see no reason for the GOP to unilaterally disarm itself.
I still don’t see why it is racist to target white voters and maximize their turnout.
Trolling? I think it is a legitimate idea myself.
As part of a larger strategy that could be a great focusing tactic. But you'd have to be pretty clear about just what is "white" about it as opposed to using a tactic that applies equally to everyone.
It's tricky. Off the top of my head I can't think of anything that would appeal only to whites but I'm overdue for my nap so maybe that's not too surprising...
True, but if the GOP could be counted upon as the party of no bailouts, even the dumbest voter would get the message.
Because they're not. Conservative principles clearly work to the detriment of criminals, illegal aliens and their sympathizers, welfare leeches, and individuals who receive preferential treatment on account of their race. It is completely reasonable for them to expect that their interests would not be served by a right-wing regime.
BTW, this thread sounds a lot like the "Sailer Strategy."
Presidential Elections Percent White vote
1976 89% White vote
1980 88% White vote
1984 86% White vote
1988 85% White vote
1992 87% White vote
1996 83% White vote
2000 81% White vote
2004 77% White vote
2008 74% White vote
Add to this declining base the fact that the Democrats also have their share of hard corp White voters. It would be very hard to base a victorious national strategy on a voter appeal primarily to Whites, particularly in the long run. A way has to be found to appeal to minorities. Since Obama has a lock on the Black vote in 2012, IMO, Hispanics and Asians are another place to try.
Why are even conservatives so opposed to this idea?
I want to win elections.
All the values and principles in the world will not help a political party that is never in power.
What people seem to forget is that conservative, small govt. principles are basically “white voter” principles.
White voters are the ones most likely to benefit from conservative small govt.
Minorities and recent immigrants benefit more heavily from federal govt. programs.
Because it is a stupid idea. Only people who will not face demographic facts cling to the idea.
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