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Ticket for parking on grass in my own yard(PARKING TICKET)

Posted on 06/10/2009 6:29:47 PM PDT by Jessica2677

Does anyone know if this is legal? We just got a parking ticket for parking in the grass in our own yard. The ticket says "can not park on grass or unpaved area(even if your own yard). I swear to god this is what the ticket says and its a $50 ticket that doubles to $100 then doubles to $200 Does anyone know anything about this law????


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To: jwalsh07; packrat35
I can't tell you how happy I am that I was blessed with him and not you.

I ask a question and all of a sudden I turn from someone who is a very conservative all around nice guy to some kind of property grabbing obamaite. That's a bit of a jump since you have no idea what kind of neighbor I am. I'm the guy who blows the snow off about a dozen sidewalks, does the driveways of the old people so they can get their cars out. I'm the guy who helps the neighbor put in his drywall and who lets them borrow tools. I'm the guy who shows people how to do things they didn't know how to do. But I'm not going to make a lot of noise and keep you awake because I want a party that goes until 6 am. I'm not going to park my car across your driveway.

I'm just trying to have a conversation with people to understand their thinking and to try to find out if they REALLY believe a person should be able to do anything they want with their property. I guess from the angry reactions I and others are getting, you know deep down that the answer is that society should be able to regulate zoning in crowded areas. That's WHY you need a license to operate a business and you know it's OK to require that. If you live out in the middle of nowhere, then things might be different.

My neighborhood has seen a large increase in Section 8 type folks recently. Not everyone is able to deal with their rudeness and stupidity by confronting them. They don't want to get beat up or shot over a small matter.

That's why folks many years ago set up some rules for rude and stupid people and hired cops to enforce them. The little old lady doesn't want to get beat up or shot when she asked the a-hole to not to play his rap music loud all day, to let his dog bark all day and crap on his sidewalk without cleaning it up. Are the rules set up to prevent these behaviors a major infringement on that jerk's property rights? I bet even the founding fathers wouldn't have a problem with them.

241 posted on 06/11/2009 3:19:56 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault ( Obama, you're off the island!)
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To: Jessica2677

You might just as well live in King Obama’s County.


242 posted on 06/11/2009 3:25:44 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (Hey, Obama! Where's my check?)
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To: Jessica2677
Last time I checked property values were based on what the homes have sold for in a 5 mile radius of your home, not next door.

That's not true. In most areas, they check a few blocks in each direction. So if a person owns a half-million dollar house and a guy builds a shed next door that is going to have the same effect on his property values as if he built it 5 miles away? Not really.

243 posted on 06/11/2009 3:27:46 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault ( Obama, you're off the island!)
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To: adorno
Adorno, there are people on FR who are not very good at looking at both sides of an argument. They think "property rights" but they don't think "responsibilities." They want to be able to do anything they want but they don't want to think about how it affects other people.

They give ignorant answers such as, "If you don't like your neighbor, buy him out." What if he won't sell? What if you are a little old lady who can't afford it?

They tend to not be able to see such things and get mad when you point them out. They know they are wrong, but can't admit it.

So, since they don't know how to engage in a civil argument to find out what we each think about question, they engage in anger and name calling. They tell you you are stupid for living in a city, they tell you to buy all the property around you, they tell you the laws are made to enrich the city, etc.

They are not good at reasonable "what ifs." They tell you you are scary and say they don't know what is happening to FR lately.

Well, we pay out dues and if they don't like it, they can buy us out, have us banned, move away, or send the cops after us.

It cuts both ways.

244 posted on 06/11/2009 3:53:13 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault ( Obama, you're off the island!)
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To: Right Wing Assault

They ticketed the old lady across the street. She has a gravel driveway and they got both of her cars.


245 posted on 06/11/2009 4:07:05 AM PDT by Jessica2677 (I cant afford taxes anymore so I am claiming EXEMPT!)
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To: Jessica2677
They ticketed the old lady across the street. She has a gravel driveway and they got both of her cars.

It is time to get a group of citizens together and go visit city hall. Put some pressure on them to explain the law, the reason for it, and how it is enforced. Then present your case that you think it is being applied unreasonably, unfairly, or unevenly.

Believe it or not, sometimes that can get things done.

246 posted on 06/11/2009 4:26:17 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault ( Obama, you're off the island!)
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To: Right Wing Assault
LAWN ENFORCEMENT - P.G. County officials ticket residents for parking on their own lawns. Investigative Voice, 29 Mar 2009 (Stephen Janis).

Budget deficits and falling tax revenues have forced local governments across the country to find new ways to raise cash, but Prince George's County officials are willing to go the extra yard – literally onto your yard – to pay the bills.

That’s what Clinton resident Mary Kay Calefati discovered when she happened upon a P.G. County revenue agent standing next to her home on March 23 issuing a ticket for her daughter's car – which was parked in the yard, parallel to the driveway.

“I see this man in a black uniform, no identification, standing 60 feet up my driveway, and I was like, 'What are you doing?' ” recalls the 50-year-old unemployed network engineer. “He said, 'I’m writing you a ticket for parking on the grass,' ” she says. “I said, 'What? Here?' And he got real smart and repeated it slowly, 'Parking...on...the...grass.' ”

“Then he got angry and wrote me another ticket,” she says, pointing to the spot where she had parked her car halfway on the narrow street and halfway on her front lawn, another apparent violation.

The total take for Prince George's County? A quick $100.

SNIP

P.G. Revenue Authority Operations Director Troy Thompson said the tickets were part of a new and well-publicized county beautification program.

"Our "stepped-up" enforcement of parking violations is but one component of the County Executive's "Livable Communities Initiative,” Thompson wrote to Calefati in a March 24 e-mail. “In many instances, we combine forces with the Police Department, Housing Department and Permit Department in a task force designed to address all violations of County law in a particular community.”

Thompson did not respond to e-mails sent over the week-end for comment, but Calefati and her family are skeptical of his explanation.

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247 posted on 06/11/2009 4:33:06 AM PDT by free me (Sarah Palin 2012!)
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To: Jessica2677

In many Urban/Suburban settings the water and sewer lines run out towards the street and front of the property. I would imagine this is the “primary” focus of his law.
And how many vehicles parked on the lawn would be acceptable? What size vehicles? Commercial trucks? Where should the line be drawn? Parking/driving on the lawn will lead to tire tracks & ruts.


248 posted on 06/11/2009 4:35:37 AM PDT by FreedomGuru (Obama lied. The Economy died.)
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To: FreedomGuru

The water line is no where near where the car was parked.


249 posted on 06/11/2009 4:38:51 AM PDT by Jessica2677 (I cant afford taxes anymore so I am claiming EXEMPT!)
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To: Revolting cat!

As I remembered.


250 posted on 06/11/2009 5:20:18 AM PDT by nufsed (Release the birth certificate, school and passport records.)
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To: Jessica2677

They ticketed the guy at the end of the street for parking his boat on the grass.


251 posted on 06/11/2009 5:22:11 AM PDT by Jessica2677 (I cant afford taxes anymore so I am claiming EXEMPT!)
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To: eyedigress

I lived on a street where the pitch of the road caused gravel and dirt to collect in the street right in front of my property. I had called the town’s DOT three times to ask for them to clear it. When I wasn’t home, they cleared it alright, they dumped it on my front lawn right next to the road where the cleared it from.

a**holes.


252 posted on 06/11/2009 6:35:29 AM PDT by George from New England (escaped CT 2006; now living north of Tampa Bay)
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To: Jessica2677

The only folks who park on the lawn in my area are either out of work white guys with tats on their butt cracks or third world new comers who were lucky to have a bicycle where they came from......it’s just not done.


253 posted on 06/11/2009 6:41:13 AM PDT by wtc911 ("How you gonna get back down that hill?")
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To: wtc911

Our neighborhood was built in the early 50’s most of the houses dont have concrete/paved driveways. We don’t even have sidewalks. Like I said earlier the little old laday across the street has a gravel drive and he gave her a ticket on both of her cars.
I am going to the commisioners office and filing trespassing charges.


254 posted on 06/11/2009 6:44:05 AM PDT by Jessica2677 (I cant afford taxes anymore so I am claiming EXEMPT!)
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To: Jessica2677

Some of the beach towns in central NJ have similar ordinances. No curb cut or driveway, no front yard parking. Curb cut and paving or gravel, parking allowed.


255 posted on 06/11/2009 7:44:14 AM PDT by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., how many girls did you drown today?" TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: Myrddin

I’ve had the San Diego Police Department ticket my Porsched 914 parked in my driveway.... It was declared a “nuisance”.


256 posted on 06/11/2009 7:47:12 AM PDT by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., how many girls did you drown today?" TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: Jessica2677

Obviously, it’s not illegal in my neighborhood, since nearly everyone parks in their yard now and then for parties and the like. That includes the senior police official who lives right across the street from me.


257 posted on 06/11/2009 7:47:20 AM PDT by CholeraJoe (Was it over when the Bugs nuked Buenos Aires? No!!)
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To: JimRed
I’ve had the San Diego Police Department ticket my Porsched 914 parked in my driveway.... It was declared a “nuisance”.

I clicked post by mistake before adding the question, how did they determine it to be a nuisance? Were other drivers creating a traffic hazard by slowing down to look it over?

258 posted on 06/11/2009 7:50:58 AM PDT by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., how many girls did you drown today?" TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: Straight Vermonter

We have a pretty sensible town here in central Vermont. When a woman on the selectboard started complaining about cars parked by the side of the road and urged that they should be towed, she ended up getting voted off the select board.

It’s the flatlanders moving in and trying to pull up the drawbridge after them who cause most of the trouble.


259 posted on 06/11/2009 8:14:20 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: 70times7

Not sure about the easement. What looks like MY front yard is actually six feet of city property...I care for it, but if the want to put a sidewalk in they have the right. Six feet from my front door is city property.

No, the law does not make sense,unless they are money-grabbing, socialists.


260 posted on 06/11/2009 8:18:57 AM PDT by madison10
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