This bad penny just won't go away (50 Rd limit legislation in CA!)

sbsun ^ | 6/5/2009 | Jim Matthews

[Red in Blue PA]

After being placed in the suspense file, and everyone thinking it was dead, Assembly Bill 962 is moving through the state legislature again. It passed the state Assembly Wednesday and now moves to the state Senate. How it got this far is a mystery.

In case you've forgotten, Los Angeles Assemblyman Kevin DeLeon's bill would:

1. Stop the sale of more than 50 rounds of handgun ammunition per month to individuals.

Since "handgun" ammunition is not defined anywhere in the bill, it effectively means "all" ammunition, since you can buy handguns in just about any metallic cartridge today. It would also include rimfire cartridges, which are routinely sold in 100-round packs, and are used in many handguns.

How can state government tell me I can only buy and shoot 50 rounds of ammunition per month to be competent with my handgun (or any gun)? The part of the law would effectively ban competitive shooting by civilians, if the law was followed to the letter. It would make those who live in dangerous neighborhoods less safe because gun owners would be less practiced, less trained.

How limiting how much ammunition we buy is supposed to do anything to help prevent crimes or help solve crimes is a complete mystery to anyone who has seriously examined this legislation.

[Red in Blue PA]

This will require registration and a system to let ammo vendors know someone has not purchased ammo an hour ago.

And what would the cost to implement THAT be? At a time when CA has no $$$$?

I long for the days when legislators like this would have been run out of town on a rail.

[DBrow]

The point may be that, once the law is in place, it will prove technically impossible to implement, so all ammo sales must cease until an instant registration, electronic transmittal, and chipping all purchasers can be put in place.

That is after all the point of “Smart Gun” laws, make it impossible to make a handgun that has shells that walk to the forensics lab and give a voice description of the shooter.

[Red in Blue PA]

I would laugh at the 2nd line of your post, but I think that is PRECISELY what most liberal, urban elites fantacize about.

[muir_redwoods]

MOVE AWAY FROM CALIFORNIA NOW!!!

[Dead Corpse]

Get a few dozen like minded folks together, some tar and feathers, track one of the aforesaid down, run them out of town on a rail.

We've become too civilized.

[Red in Blue PA]

We've become too civilized.

Agree. Any person running for office who does not staunchly defend the 2A, is not fit for said office. PERIOD.

[DBrow]

Well I am a liberal urban elite. What’s wrong with self-reporting ammo?

It would only report an illegal gun discharge and so would not infringe on the second installment rights of hunters and sportsmen.

[Dead Corpse]

Or Free Speech. Or Property Rights. Or...

Never mind. That's all antiquated thought now. It's the new Amerika.

[Polynikes]

“And what would the cost to implement THAT be? At a time when CA has no $$$$? “

Bingo ! As my dear wife is fond of saying. “Pass all the laws you want lets see you enforce them” When Cali. is wondering about where the $$$ will come from for welfare payments lets see them run this money pit through.

[G Larry]

Ask the pol about the number of California crimes in the last 10 years that used more than 50 rounds of ammo.

[Red in Blue PA]

Facts never got in the way of silly legislation.

This “feels” good to the urban masses....that’s all that matters.

[SuperLuminal]

"It is not intended to prevent crime. "

The gun-control scum know what's coming so they are desperate to minimize the number of rnds that will be coming their way.

[CurlyDave]

The 9th Circuit has incorporated the 2A.

This would immediately come under 2A attack and would lose.

[AvOrdVet]

CA and NJ- where the 2nd Amendment went to die.

If the citizens of those states are so lazy as to let THEIR legislators get away with such nonsense, they deserve what they getting!

But if they turn off entertainment tonight and join in the fight... I'll stand up next to them!

[absolootezer0]

don’t most people that shoot CAS, IDPA, IPSC, etc load their own? how would this law effect reloaders?

[absolootezer0]

Ask the pol about the number of California crimes in the last 10 years that used more than 50 rounds of ammo.

every time a cop starts shooting?

[AnAmericanMother]

Not everybody, but most, since it's cheaper, and anybody shooting one of the old calibers has to. But a fair number of folks with .38 sp (and there are a lot of those) shoot the cheap commercial reloads. We started with those until we collected enough empties to reload.

The real problem is, of course, that even the reloaders wouldn't be able to get more brass when we wore out the stuff we have. And it DOES eventually wear out, every time you resize it you flex it and it eventually cracks. The heavier the loads the faster it happens.

In other words, it wouldn't affect reloaders right away but it would cut off our supply of brass. And that would bring things to a screeching halt for us too, just a little further down the line.

[mvpel]

Eventually California is going to find a breaking point, where disregard of the law bears the same hassles as complying with it. Civil disobedience is always an option.

[2harddrive]

HELLO reloaders!!!

[2harddrive]

FYI, there is no NEED for the Supremes to consider 2nd Amendment “Incorporation”! FACT: The 2nd Amendment is SELF-incorporated to all government entities at every level. It is MORE ABSOLUTE than the 1st Amendment, or any of the others, because the wording forbids not only CONGRESS, but ANYONE from infringing on it. The 1st says “Congress shall make no law...”. The 2nd say “shall NOT be infringed!” Period! End of debate!