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WALSH: Chris can I make a point-
MATTHEWS: Sure.
WALSH: -about the DHS report too, that I think is relevant. Susan [Page] hits the high points. It also says that, you know, the single biggest danger, in their view, are lone wolves and that looks prescient today too. But what, if you look back at the way Janet Napolitano, who didn't even write it, it was commissioned by the Bush, by the Bush White House, if you look back at the way she was vilified, at Rush Limbaugh, and Michelle Malkin and that whole right wing echo chamber acting as though it was now open season on conservatives, they have this incredible capacity-
MATTHEWS: Yeah.
WALSH: -to be shrill, to polarize. And I don't know what happened to that report? It got shelved until today. Susan and I read it. You know I hadn't read it, when it came out. It's very calm.
MATTHEWS: Well let me ask you Sue, we live in a country where it's easier to get your hands on a gun than to get somebody to make you a waffle. It's easy! It is totally easy in this country. We believe in the First Amendment. Our Constitution is protected. The right to bear arms is an individual right, as recently reviewed by the Supreme Court. It's a fact of life. You put together the, the prevalence of guns in this country. The easiness with which someone can engage in gunplay and gun smoke, in this case, where people can be killed it doesn't surprise me. I wonder whether if in a free society violence is always gonna be part of it, if guns are available and people are allowed to walk into places like the Holocaust Museum?
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A little later in the program Matthews asks if "conservatives" need to tone down their rhetoric to which USA Todays Susan Page more reasonably points out that she didnt think it was fair "to conflate being a conservative with fringe groups," that engage in violence. And for her part Walsh tried to walk back her position as she said she didnt blame "conservatives" or "mainstream Republicans" for the shooting but nevertheless went on to continue to cite their "rhetoric," as a cause for the shooting.
MATTHEWS: Susan you first. You know we've grown up in a country where there's been an extreme, generally on the right, sometimes on the left. Lee Harvey Oswald clearly was fascinated and in love with, infatuated with, with Fidel Castro when he killed Kennedy. This thing here where you have a person who claims to be or is actually anti-Semitic, anti-black, anti-Catholic, I guess on the periphery, which is the big three of the KKK historically. What do we do with this? Are we gonna hear from conservatives who are gonna start saying, "Well let's stop some of this black helicopter talk. Let's stop this villainization of the government, of the establishment." Which way do you think the tone of the debate is gonna go now?
SUSAN PAGE, USA TODAY: Well I don't think it's really fair to conflate being a conservative with these fringe groups that engage in this, in this kind of violence. I mean that's, you can be a critic of the Obama administration without endorsing these, these kind of views and certainly these, these actions. But I do, yeah I do think this sparks a kind of debate and concern about, about what's happening with politics.
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WALSH: And I will say, you know, I do hope that some conservatives do stand up. I don't blame them, I don't blame mainstream Republicans by any means for this. I want to be clear. But they could help in ratcheting down some of the rhetoric. When Bill O'Reilly goes on TV every night and calls Dr. Tiller a baby-killer and a Nazi and a Mengele and shows where he works I, why do we put up with that? Why is that entertainment in our culture? Demonizing a private citizen for doing a lawful job. Why, why, why, why are people doing that? Why is that acceptable? I would like to see a debate about that.
Incidentally while Walsh slammed OReilly for "demonizing a private citizen," it was Matthews, earlier on Wednesday nights show during a segment on the future of the GOP, who actually compared Newt Gingrich to the devil:
MATTHEWS: Doug its not too cartoonish to describe Rush Limbaugh as sort of a walrus under water. Thats what he talks like. Whu, whu, whu. Hes like a drowning walrus the way he talks. And then youve got Newt Gingrich whos clearly a, well he looks like a Mephistopheles. And then this guy, well, well Cheney is a troll. So you got a troll, a walrus and the devil as your cartoon characters. Cant you guys find more attractive figures that the right might rally too?
Gee I thought Rush supported Israel and opposed the Holocaust. silly me.
It would arguably be an even more justifiable to posit in the public discussions on the matter that it was Obamas apparent willingness to throw Israel under the bus coupled with Rev Wrights comments about Jews thwarting Obama that served as just the sort of green light James Von Brunn needed to act on his hatred for Jews.
So, if you think that confiscating guns is gonna work, go back to getting leg-tingles while fantasizing about your dream-boat of a 'president'.
Rush’s fault!!!
Crissy had to take a dig at gun ownership as well!!!
Elitist snob won't even make his own waffles!
Wrong. He was part of a left wing group.
The man was a white supremest. He was a NAZI - a supporter the National Socialists Party. Socialists are left wing.
This seriously needs to be corrected by the media.
The guy hated and ranted about Israel, Bush, ‘neocons’, and Zionism.... sounds a lot more like Chrissy Matthews than Rush.
Oh, yeah. Doesn't fit the agenda. Never happened.
Leni
So when it comes out this 89-year old WWII veteran has dementia, will the media report it? Sure...and in the same breath blame Rush, Michelle and O’Reilly for agitating the mentally unstable. They’ll turn the shooter into a victim.
Palin? Naaaaa... she's a slut
coulda swore it was Pee Wee Herman, oops, flubbsies.
Perhaps he was listening to Achdamindejad the president of Iran, who actually spouts that line daily.
From her own written bio:
“I’ve written for everyone from the Los Angeles Times and Washington Post to Vogue and the Nation. I love baseball, Bruce Springsteen, Stephen Colbert and long walks on the beach. I live in San Francisco with my daughter, Nora, the best teenager ever.
Ah yes, one of the “long walks on the beach” type females. In other words, too unattractive to get asked out
Ever wonder what Letterman might say about Nora, Joan?
On the same day that Obama’s mentor for 20 years says, “Them Jews...”
Birds chirping.
Man will the next four years, at a minimum, be interesting times.
Regards
This is PC on steroids! It is building a flimsy excuse to put all us dissenters in a gulag or worse!
No one writing it was Bush's fault as yet?
"Von Brunn was active as a producer of anti-Semitic tracts for decades..writes The Washinton Post".
Maybe it was the Reverent Wright's fault???
The aging James Von Brunn acted on his own after his hatred got the best of him. Praised & Bumped by those on the Stormfront page where on like sites he chose to hang out.. which the MSM conveniently failed to mention. FR, specifically has been mentioned, however.
I think the shooter probably was listening to Husseins "preacher" and was was doing something about the Jews that are keeping Hussein Baraka from speaking with him.
These asshole talking head propagandists will have a legitimate bitch when Hussein starts to deal with them the way Putin and Chavez deals with his opposition in the press.