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Conversely, without ever saying the A-word, family and friends implied that if anything would earn Tiller a place in both heaven and history as a martyr it would be the tens of thousands of abortions he committed.

It's frightening how out of touch with reality these people are.

1 posted on 06/10/2009 3:53:36 PM PDT by wagglebee
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2 posted on 06/10/2009 3:54:02 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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3 posted on 06/10/2009 3:54:20 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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Suicides are usually eulogized without mention of their cause of death. Maybe Tiller’s family can’t admit that they cause he died for was shameful.


4 posted on 06/10/2009 3:55:26 PM PDT by Tamar1973 (Riding the Korean Wave, one Bae Yong Joon drama at a time!)
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The know it’s evil, but they can’t bring themselves to face what they (many probably) have done.


5 posted on 06/10/2009 3:56:42 PM PDT by Clock King
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Ahhh, what the combination of euphemism, politican correctness and liberalism can bring.

They can’t even say the “A” word. Well, let me slap them into reality:

60,000 ABORTIONS buys a special place in HELL for the late Dr. Tiller!


7 posted on 06/10/2009 4:04:51 PM PDT by TMA62 (TMA62)
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The world is a better place without him. Too bad his mommy made the wrong “choice”.


8 posted on 06/10/2009 4:12:11 PM PDT by clintonh8r (Joe Biden in '09!!)
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I am struck by the fact that he was in a church that apparently never once confronted him with what he was doing, never told him he was wrong, never gave him the chance to repent of it. He died unrepentant from all appearances.

We want abortionists in church, not so they can fill a pew, not so they can help out with the utility bills, but so they can find God, find redemption, find new life rather than remaining a slave and agent of death. And leave the old life behind. He died as far as anyone can know an unrepentant agent of death. And no one said boo, not while he was alive, and not since. Not in that church, at least.


9 posted on 06/10/2009 4:17:30 PM PDT by marron
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Though there is considerable doctrinal disagreement between Christian sects, I wonder if there is someone of religious standing who could come right out and express, for cases of extreme murder, that the deceased is indeed, outside of mitigating circumstances, condemned to Hell. They are not condemning him, he has done it to himself.

That is, someone of standing in their denomination who would clearly state: “George Tiller is condemned to Hell for the evil murders he committed in his life.”

No equivocation. No confusion. Clarity. “George Tiller is going to Hell for killing 60,000 babies. He died unrepentant and did not deserve to be buried in sanctified ground. His families’ tears and prayers in his behalf cannot redeem his soul.”

“And there is no Earthly absolution he may be given after death that will free him from the eternal prison of Hell.”

“He freely cast his own soul into Hell, and his damnation is certain.”

There is a purpose for making such a statement, and making it publicly, and stating it clearly. That purpose is to renounce moral relativism. That the punishment for unrepentant mass murder is Hell, however that place or state of being exists.

And George Tiller is there. He cannot be voted out of Hell, or bribed out of Hell. The US Supreme Court cannot declare him redeemed for his sins. The US Congress and the President of the United States cannot resolve that he is no longer in Hell. The entire liberal establishment and academia are powerless to limit George Tiller’s agony.


15 posted on 06/10/2009 4:35:02 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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He's not a saint according to the Catholic Catechism. I bet the devil met him after his particular judgment at the moment of his death.

enter the Table of Contents of the Catechism of the Catholic Church here

1: CCC Search Result - Paragraph # 2271  (618 bytes )  preview document matches
1 Since the first century the Church has affirmed the moral evil of every procured abortion. This teaching has not changed and remains unchangeable. Direct abortion,
URL: http://www.scborromeo.org/ccc/para/2271.htm
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2: CCC Search Result - Paragraph # 2272  (580 bytes )  preview document matches
2 Formal cooperation in an abortion constitutes a grave offense. The Church attaches the canonical penalty of excommunication to this crime against human life. "A
URL: http://www.scborromeo.org/ccc/para/2272.htm
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3: CCC Search Result - Paragraph # 2322  (290 bytes )  preview document matches
2 From its conception, the child has the right to life. Direct abortion, that is, abortion willed as an end or as a means, is a "criminal" practice (GS 27 § 3),
URL: http://www.scborromeo.org/ccc/para/2322.htm
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4: CCC Search Result - Paragraph # 2274  (554 bytes )  preview document matches
gravely opposed to the moral law when this is done with the thought of possibly inducing an abortion, depending upon the results: a diagnosis must not be the equivalent
URL: http://www.scborromeo.org/ccc/para/2274.htm

17 posted on 06/10/2009 4:49:57 PM PDT by Salvation (With God all things are possible.)
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Some folks are just not operating under the same set of assumptions. Moral, ethical, religious or otherwise.


19 posted on 06/10/2009 5:46:44 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner!)
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John 3:19-21:

"This is the judgment: that light has entered the world, and men have preferred darkness to light because their deeds were evil. Everybody who does wrong hates the light and keeps away from it, for fear his deeds may be exposed. But everybody who is living by the truth will come to the light to make it plain that all he has done has been done through God."
20 posted on 06/10/2009 5:57:21 PM PDT by bdeaner (The bread which we break, is it not a participation in the body of Christ? (1 Cor. 10:16))
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22 posted on 06/10/2009 6:39:11 PM PDT by cpforlife.org (A Catholic Respect Life Curriculum is available FREE at KnightsForLife.org)
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I was thinking of a different a word that also would have been appropriate.


24 posted on 06/10/2009 7:53:13 PM PDT by Pinkbell
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It's frightening how out of touch with reality these people are.

The more proof I see of the liberal mindset, the more convinced I am that a whole generation of people have fried their brains on drugs.

25 posted on 06/10/2009 8:26:31 PM PDT by pray4liberty (http://www.foundersvalues.com/)
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