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Deadly attack on USS Liberty gets new attention
Seattle Times ^ | 6/9/9 | Hal Bernton

Posted on 06/09/2009 2:17:06 PM PDT by Clint Williams

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To: randomhero97

I look at it this way: If I were Israel and I knew the US had a security leak so serious that whatever the US knew, my enemies knew, I’d have taken out that ship too.

Accidentally, of course.


61 posted on 06/09/2009 4:06:38 PM PDT by RobRoy (This too will pass. But it will hurt like a you know what.)
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To: papertyger
Then why the hell did you start out bashing those of us that think the Liberty is a favorite neo-nazi talking point?!?!

I guess I was a little naive about that aspect of it.
62 posted on 06/09/2009 4:06:45 PM PDT by randomhero97 ("First you want to kill me, now you want to kiss me. Blow!" - Ash)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

I agree. I also suspect they had good reason.


63 posted on 06/09/2009 4:07:18 PM PDT by RobRoy (This too will pass. But it will hurt like a you know what.)
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To: Star Traveler

Just glad not all perished in the awful accident thanks to some heroic actions by some of the sailors on board.


64 posted on 06/09/2009 4:07:20 PM PDT by VicVega (Just call him President Tut for short.)
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To: RobRoy

True, considering the leak was at the very top. It’s too bad there wasn’t a way to pin it on the LBJ admin.


65 posted on 06/09/2009 4:09:25 PM PDT by randomhero97 ("First you want to kill me, now you want to kiss me. Blow!" - Ash)
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To: Star Traveler
You wrote- And that’s what happens to the honest and faithful servicemen, doing their duty when an Administration is corrupt and puts them in harms way, intentionally. It makes it all the worse, for what the Administration did...

I AGREE!

66 posted on 06/09/2009 4:09:30 PM PDT by VicVega (Just call him President Tut for short.)
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To: VicVega

It was amazing for those that did survive, and that the ship didn’t sink..., yes, indeed. God’s blessings were on those men who did survive.

But God’s blessings sure weren’t on the Johnson Administration for what they did. It’s a good thing that we got rid of Johnson and his administration when we did (in that he decided he couldn’t “hack the heat” and got out of there...).


67 posted on 06/09/2009 4:09:54 PM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: mnehring

Israel will play at diplomacy with enemies that understand only power until it is in Israel’s best interest to do otherwise.

Then it is best to be somewhere other than the spot where they “do otherwise”.

It is one of those Sovereign Nation thingees. Liberals really do not understand the concept.


68 posted on 06/09/2009 4:10:13 PM PDT by RobRoy (This too will pass. But it will hurt like a you know what.)
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To: mkjessup
I think that horse is only "mostly dead".
69 posted on 06/09/2009 4:11:44 PM PDT by RobRoy (This too will pass. But it will hurt like a you know what.)
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To: Star Traveler

Hopefully soon enough we get rid of O.


70 posted on 06/09/2009 4:11:47 PM PDT by VicVega (Just call him President Tut for short.)
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To: VicVega

Amen to that one... :-)

[P.S. on that one, I think state laws put into effect, which require proof to be on the ballot, or else the name doesn’t go on, will be the best bet for getting rid of him, in the next election...]


71 posted on 06/09/2009 4:14:10 PM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

So what!


72 posted on 06/09/2009 4:14:27 PM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla ("men of intemperate minds cannot be free. Their passions forge their fetters." -- Edmund Burke)
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To: Star Traveler

How about the Assassination attempt against George H.W. Bush from none other then Saddam Hassan.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/longroad/etc/assassination.html


73 posted on 06/09/2009 4:16:14 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric cartman voice* 'I love you guys')
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner
the Israeli forces wanted NO survivors who could tell the story.

If 'the Israeli forces wanted NO survivors who could tell the story' there would have been NO SURVIVORS!

74 posted on 06/09/2009 4:17:34 PM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla ("men of intemperate minds cannot be free. Their passions forge their fetters." -- Edmund Burke)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner
The problem with this piece is that the author is hardly objective, him being the Israeli ambassador.

Did you read the piece?

The fact that the Israeli torpedo boats ran right up alongside the Liberty and poured everything they had into to her, even machine gunning the life boats, tells me that the Israeli forces wanted NO survivors who could tell the story.

Any yet there were survivors. How do you explain that? Israel wanted them obliterated, but then decided to let them limp away?

75 posted on 06/09/2009 4:20:35 PM PDT by DejaJude
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To: randomhero97

The entire incident is extremely confusing.


76 posted on 06/09/2009 4:21:26 PM PDT by Stonewall Jackson (Put your trust in God; but mind to keep your powder dry. - Oliver Cromwell)
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To: Steve Van Doorn

I’ve got to think about that, because I’m trying to make this (as closely as possible) to be International Crises of one government to another (although there are already exceptions in there, like the Marine Barracks bombing in Lebanon...).

I’ll read up on it and see if there is something there that makes it different than an assassination attempt that other Presidents have had, although, yes, I know it was put on by Saddam.

You’ll note that I don’t have the *actual assassination* of Kennedy in there — which was a *much more serious thing* than Bush’s. Kennedy was actually killed and there is speculation (although unproved) of international complicity (along with a whole host of other theories... :-)...).

But, thanks for sending it on, and I’m going to be taking another week to work on this thing with the leads that I’ve got.


77 posted on 06/09/2009 4:24:26 PM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: Cicero
I’ll just ask a question: Why is the Seattle Times, a left wing rag, running this story? Because they care about our military, or because they want to stir up hatred for Israel at a time when Obama is planning to abandon them because he is a Muslim lover.

To do that, they need to stir up more antisemitism first.

Bingo. Israel immediately apologized and gave millions of dollars in compensation to the wounded and to the family's of those killed. What more do they want them to do in 2009 for something that happened in 1967?

78 posted on 06/09/2009 4:28:07 PM PDT by DejaJude
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To: Stonewall Jackson

You said — The entire incident is extremely confusing.

Ummmm..., Johnson puts a U.S. spy ship in the wrong place, trying to spy surreptitiously, when Israel is trying to gain ground on the Syrians, with the U.S. sending the spy information to Syria, so they know what the Israelis are doing...

Seems to me that Johnson was “sticking his nose” in some place where it wasn’t helpful and he “got it shot off” — but that meant, unfortunately, that the servicemen that Johnson recklessly put in harm’s way got the brunt of Johnson’s stupid move...


79 posted on 06/09/2009 4:29:19 PM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: Clint Williams
This is interesting. The first forum I was ever involved in was the Sink The Liberty Forum on *Prodigy in 1988.
80 posted on 06/09/2009 4:31:24 PM PDT by Little Bill (NH the Sixth Gay State.)
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