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'Missile' which narrowly missed plane days before Air France disaster 'probably large model rocket'
Daily Mail (U.K.) ^ | June 9, 2009

Posted on 06/09/2009 12:36:07 PM PDT by Schnucki

Investigators in Texas say a flying object that narrowly missed a Continental Express plane last month may have been a large model rocket.

The jet's pilot and co-pilot spotted the object and a long white vapor trail shortly after they took off from Houston's George Bush Intercontinental Airport on May 29. The plane was bound for Greenville, South Carolina.

Pilots spotted the object at roughly 16,000 feet (4,900 meters). It was about 5 feet (1.5 meters) to 7 feet (2 meters) long.

It barely missed the passenger jet, passing just 100 feet below it.

Liberty County Sheriff's Chief Deputy Ken DeFoor said no model rocket clubs reported having launches that day, and that a permit would be needed to launch a rocket that high.

Another Continental plane narrowly missed a probable model rocket after leaving the airport last year, also around Memorial Day. That plane was flying about 4,750 feet (1,450 meters).

The pilot immediately contacted officials, who brought in the Federal Aviation Administration to investigate.

'The FAA then contacted the Liberty County department dispatcher and reported their pilot reported an object flying straight at his aircraft and passed 100 feet under it,' Ken DeFoor, chief deputy for the Liberty County Sheriff’s Department, was quoted as saying in local media.

'The pilot, from what we understand, was former military,' a police spokesman said. 'He was able to get the coordinates down real quick.'

Last night the FBI met with the sheriff's department and the FAA to discuss the sighting.

'While we have no information to indicate there was a criminal act we certainly do not rule anything out and certainly would not want to speculate on what it may or may not have been,' an FBI spokeswoman said.

Police said local hobbyists do set off rockets in the area, but

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1 posted on 06/09/2009 12:36:07 PM PDT by Schnucki
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Pilots spotted the object at roughly 16,000 feet (4,900 meters). It was about 5 feet (1.5 meters) to 7 feet (2 meters) long.

LOL! Sorry, but that would be a hell of a model rocket.

2 posted on 06/09/2009 12:40:18 PM PDT by bill1952 (Power is an illusion created between those with power - and those without)
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To: Schnucki

There was no missle. Nothing to see here. It was just a toy. Actually, there was not even a toy.

3 posted on 06/09/2009 12:40:41 PM PDT by bk1000 (A clear conscience is a sure sign of a poor memory)
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To: Schnucki
sounds like the Master Blasters have been busy?
4 posted on 06/09/2009 12:40:51 PM PDT by Vaquero ("an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: 1riot1ranger; Action-America; Aggie Mama; Alkhin; Allegra; American72; antivenom; Antoninus II; ...

The story has legs but few details.


5 posted on 06/09/2009 12:41:02 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (June 4, 2009 - the day Barack Obama threw all of America under the bus.)
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To: Schnucki

For what it’s worth, a 5 foot rocket of any ground-based type at 16,000 feet wouldn’t bring down a large airliner.

Almost all of those 5 feet would be used for fuel, leaving very little payload. Maybe enough to knock out one engine, but that won’t bring down a jetliner.


6 posted on 06/09/2009 12:42:16 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Schnucki
we...would not want to speculate on what it may or may not have been...

...but we will anyway. It was probably a model rocket.

7 posted on 06/09/2009 12:42:21 PM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
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To: bill1952

Some people do build rockets that can reach that altitude but they are very very expensive and require speical kinds of engines


8 posted on 06/09/2009 12:42:34 PM PDT by LukeL (Yasser Arafat: "I'd kill for a Nobel Peace Prize")
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To: bill1952

I hear ya there!! We sure didn’t have THAT big of an Estes Rocket when I was a kid...spoiled kids these days!!!!


9 posted on 06/09/2009 12:42:43 PM PDT by FlashBack ('0'bama: "Katrina on a Global Level")
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To: Schnucki; Squantos; Eaker; Aeronaut

First I’ve heard of it.


10 posted on 06/09/2009 12:44:12 PM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: bill1952
...that would be a hell of a model rocket.
I'm not very knowledgeable about model rockets. (The largest I've seen are about a foot long.) A model rocket at nearly 3 miles high, though, seems very suspicious to me.
11 posted on 06/09/2009 12:44:18 PM PDT by Clara Lou
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To: Schnucki

High Pucker Factor for the pilot, for sure!


12 posted on 06/09/2009 12:45:30 PM PDT by bigbob
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To: Southack

I find it hard to believe that they new where the rocket was seen and at what altitude and yet have failed to recover it by now.

Something stinks. I believe if this were a terrorist attempt to bring down an aircraft and the word got out, it would all but shut down the airline industry because so many people would refuse to fly.


13 posted on 06/09/2009 12:45:42 PM PDT by 101voodoo
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To: LukeL
They have to use a very expensive propellant that anyone can obtain a license for, however all of it is tracked and you also need a permit to fire the thing along with a good site (not too hard)
14 posted on 06/09/2009 12:46:35 PM PDT by bill1952 (Power is an illusion created between those with power - and those without)
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To: 101voodoo
"that they new knew..."
15 posted on 06/09/2009 12:47:11 PM PDT by 101voodoo
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To: Schnucki
Investigators in Texas say a flying object that narrowly missed a Continental Express plane last month may have been a large model rocket.

BS! An FAA waiver is required to launch a hobby rocket to that altitude. Also, FAA would never (we hope) issue a permit so close to a flyway.

TRIPOLI


16 posted on 06/09/2009 12:47:18 PM PDT by Islander7 (If you want to anger conservatives, lie to them. If you want to anger liberals, tell them the truth.)
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To: bill1952
"LOL! Sorry, but that would be a hell of a model rocket. "

It would have to be build by an experienced rocketeer, but in no way would it even be close to some of the maximum altitudes that are easily reached by good model makers.

What's more interesting, is that these high-altitude rockets travel at super-sonic speeds - they have to to reach those altitudes. They could easily be mistaken for a SAM as effectively they are non-explosive, "dumb" SAMs.

17 posted on 06/09/2009 12:47:44 PM PDT by Big_Monkey
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To: bill1952
We have rocketeers in New Mexico who are cleared for far higher than that. The Albuquerque Rocket Society is often cleared for 9,000' AGL. They also have a call-in waiver for up to 11,000' AGL. In Rio Rancho, where the club launches, they are already well over 5,000 above sea level. So 11,000 AGL is 16,000+ above MSL in our area.

ARS

18 posted on 06/09/2009 12:53:57 PM PDT by IYAS9YAS
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To: Schnucki

In a related story, minutes after the sighting by the Continenal Express pilot, Dick Cheny was seen hastily leaving the area of the estimated launch coordinates.


19 posted on 06/09/2009 12:54:43 PM PDT by frithguild (Can I drill your head now?)
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To: Schnucki

Is this the missle that fisherman in Madeira, Florida caught?


20 posted on 06/09/2009 12:55:08 PM PDT by prismsinc (A.K.A. "The Terminator"!)
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