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To: Crazieman
A great idea that probably won't happen.

"County welfare directors are "in shock" at the very idea of getting rid of CalWORKs, which has been widely viewed as one of the most successful social programs..."

Wonder what a liberal's idea of a "successful" social program is.
6 posted on 06/08/2009 6:50:16 AM PDT by MaryFromMichigan
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To: MaryFromMichigan
Wonder what a liberal's idea of a "successful" social program is.

One that expands year after year after year...
17 posted on 06/08/2009 6:54:00 AM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: MaryFromMichigan
Wonder what a liberal's idea of a "successful" social program is.

That's easy. A "successful" social program is one which permantently sustains an ever-growing population of increasingly dependent subjects.

Liberals measure success by the number of people who are dependent upon the government. Conservatives measure success by the number of people who are not dependent upon the government.

20 posted on 06/08/2009 6:55:34 AM PDT by Zeddicus
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To: MaryFromMichigan

“Wonder what a liberal’s idea of a “successful” social program is.”

That’s easy. It’s the one that provides tens of thousands of overpaid administative positions with fat retirement benefits plus it provides a guaranteed RAT voting block of several millions.


26 posted on 06/08/2009 7:00:14 AM PDT by Seruzawa (Obamalama lied, the republic died.)
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To: MaryFromMichigan

“Wonder what a liberal’s idea of a “successful” social program is.”

That’s easy. It’s the one that provides tens of thousands of overpaid administative positions with fat retirement benefits plus it provides a guaranteed RAT voting block of several millions.


27 posted on 06/08/2009 7:01:16 AM PDT by Seruzawa (Obamalama lied, the republic died.)
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To: MaryFromMichigan
Wonder what a liberal's idea of a "successful" social program is.

Mary,

This is a simple yet profound statement. I am disgusted that I have never seen or thought of it myself. What is the definition of successful with regards to, specifically, welfare?

I do not know for sure. But I suspect that high numbers of families enrolled in this entitlement have caused it to be deemed successful. I, and most logical citizens, would likely see it just the opposite. A successful welfare system would be one that works so well it is no longer needed. Recipients would be going back to work and not need assistance at all.

Alas, I am sure they grade it differently. "We have helped 400,000 families that would otherwise be homeless and starving. This is the most successful program ever." or... "Because of the success of our program, we have returned 250,000 folks back to work and they are no longer in need of our assistance in order to support themselves and their families. Therefore, we are closing our doors for now."

In liberal eyes, the more poor people there are that depend on the government entitlements for their basic needs the more successful the program is. That is tragic. It means, somewhere, somebody is hoping for more poor people and more failure for more funding and their own job security. It is truly a case where in order for some welfare administrator to have a job, there must be poor people applying for help. Who would you root for if your own livelyhood depended on the suffering of more people?

Thank you for the thought.

28 posted on 06/08/2009 7:01:19 AM PDT by Tenacious 1 (Government For the People - an obviously concealed oxymoron)
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To: MaryFromMichigan
"Wonder what a liberal's idea of a "successful" social program is."

Thousands and thousands of people, sitting at home, drinking beer, watching Am.Idol, and getting paid to stay there.....much like Britain, really.

66 posted on 06/08/2009 8:14:51 AM PDT by CanaGuy (Go Harper!)
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To: MaryFromMichigan

Wonder what a liberal’s idea of a “successful” social program is.


It’s always a numbers game. How many are signed up for the program? How much did they spend on it? Is spending increasing, a sign that the program needs to grow to keep up? Are benefits growing for the union employees, a sign of happy workers willing to stay on their jobs? Has their been an increase in holidays, paid time off? There are so many measures for success that I don’t have room here to list them all. And keep in mind that ending these programs are disproportionately affecting minorities and the poor. To end them simply would be racist. /s


74 posted on 06/08/2009 8:49:02 AM PDT by Joan Kerrey
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