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To: bushwon

If Reagan or even W. Bush were president, this would not stand...

Jimmah Cawtah would fail, too...maybe Bammy will take his place in the PRESIDENTIAL CELLAR...


65 posted on 06/07/2009 9:50:20 PM PDT by jessduntno (July 4th, 2009. Washington DC. Gadsden Flags. Be There.)
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To: jessduntno

I doubt they would have even had the trial if McCain had won :(

Think about all the stuff they have done since the election or even the inauguration—basically they are flipping the bird to the US!

Hopefully, NK is just holding them for negotiation but hearing on news that “Washington is urging their release on humanitarian grounds” is not very encouraging :(


91 posted on 06/07/2009 10:02:10 PM PDT by Freedom56v2 (If you think insurance is expensive now, just wait till it is free! PJ O'Rourke.)
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To: jessduntno

You said — If Reagan or even W. Bush were president, this would not stand...

Ummm..., not necessarily... Reagan didn’t do anything about the Soviets shooting down KAL Flight 007, and neither did Reagan do anything about the bombing at the Marine barracks in Lebanon, except just get out of there...

And also, the Chinese delivered a “cut up plane” back to the U.S.... LOL... And President Bush didn’t do anything about our Diplomats being killed in Gaza by the terrorists either...


Presidential Crises - Hostages and/or Killings of Military and Civilians


Truman — Killed (31), Berlin Blockade, USSR Military, East Germany
Eisenhower — Hostages (1), Gary Powers U2 Incident, USSR Military, USSR
Kennedy — Hostages (Berlin), Berlin Crisis of 1961, USSR Military, East Germany
Kennedy — Killed (118), Bay of Pigs Invasion, US Military, Cuba
Kennedy — Killed (0), Cuban Missile Crisis, US/USSR,
Johnson — Killed (34), USS Liberty, Israel
Johnson — Hostages (82/1 Killed), USS Pueblo, 11 months, North Korea
Johnson — Killed (0), Gulf of Tonkin Incident, N. Vietnamese Torpedo Boats, North Vietnam
Nixon — Killed (2), US Diplomats, Black September/Arafat, Sudan
Ford — Hostages (40/21 servicemen killed), SS Mayaguez, Khmer Rouge, Cambodia
Ford — Killed (2), Axe Murder Incident (two US Army Soldiers), NK Army, North Korea
Carter — Hostages (52), Tehran Embassy Hostages, 444 days, Iran
Carter — Killed (8), Operation Eagle Claw, C-130, Iran
Reagan — Killed (0/0 foreign; jets shot down), 1981 Gulf of Sidra Incident, US Air Force, Libya
Reagan — Killed (62), KAL Flight 007 Shootdown, USSR Air Force, USSR
Reagan — Killed (19), Operation Urgent Fury, US Military, Grenada
Reagan — Killed (241), Marine barracks bombing, Islamic Terrorists, Lebanon/Iran
Reagan — Hostages (20), Civilian Hostages, Islamic Terrorists, Lebanon/Iran
Reagan — Killed (5), Civilian/Military Killings, Islamic Terrorists, Lebanon/Iran
Reagan — Killed (1), Army Maj. Arthur D. Nicholson Incident, Soviet Military, East Germany
Reagan — Killed (6), Zona Rosa Attack, Central America Revolutionary Workers’ Party, El Salvador
Reagan — Killed (3), Berlin Discotheque Bombing, Libyan Intelligence/Gaddafi, West Germany
Reagan — Killed (0/unknown foreign), Operation Attain Document, US Air Force, Libya
Reagan — Killed (2), Operation El Dorado Canyon, USAF, Libya
Reagan — Killed (290/foreign), Iran Air Flight 655/USS Vincennes, US Military, Persian Gulf/Iran
Reagan — Killed (37), USS Stark Missile Attack (FFG-31), Iraq Air Force, Iraq
Reagan — Killed (0/2 foreign), 1989 Gulf of Sidra Incident, US Air Force, Libya
Bush — Killed (24), Operation Just Cause, US Military, Panama
Clinton — Killed (90), Waco Siege/Branch Davidians, US Government, USA
Clinton — Killed (6), 1993 World Trade Center Bombing, Al Qaeda, Afghanistan
Clinton — Killed (168), Oklahoma City Bombing, Domestic/Foreign Terrorists*, USA/Iraq*
Clinton — Killed (19), Black Hawk Down, Islamic Warlords, Somalia
Clinton — Killed (17), USS Cole Bombing (DDG-67), Al Qaeda, port in Yemen
Clinton — Killed (142), TWA Flight 800, Foreign Terrorism [controversial*], Terrorists
Clinton — Killed (19), Khobar Towers Bombing, Hizballah Al-Hijaz [terrorists], Saudi Arabia
Clinton — Killed (12), 1998 US Embassy Bombings, Al Qaeda/Osama bin Ladin, Tanzania/Kenya
Clinton — Killed (0/35 foreign), Operation Infinite Reach, US Air Force, Afghanistan/Sudan
Bush — Hostages (24), Hainan Island incident (EP-3 Aries), 11 days, China
Bush — Killed (2,998), 9/11 Attack, Al Qaeda, Afghanistan
Bush — Killed (3), US Diplomatic Security Specialists, PA Terrorists, PA Territory/Gaza
Bush — Killed (19), Riyadh Compound Bombings, Islamic Terrorists, Saudi Arabia
Bush — Killed (1), Khobar Massacre, The Jerusalem Squadron/Al Qaeda, Saudi Arabia
Obama — Hostages (1), MV Maersk Alabama Piracy, Somalia Pirates, Somalia

Truman — Berlin Blockade - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berlin_Blockade
Eisenhower — Gary Powers U2 Incident - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U-2_Crisis_of_1960
Kennedy — Berlin Crisis of 1961 - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berlin_Crisis_of_1961
Kennedy — Bay of Pigs Invasion - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bay_of_Pigs_Invasion
Kennedy — Cuban Missile Crisis - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuban_Missile_Crisis
Johnson — USS Liberty Incident - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Liberty_incident
Johnson — USS Pueblo Incident - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Pueblo_(AGER-2)
Johnson — Gulf of Tonkin Incident - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_of_Tonkin_Incident
Nixon — US Diplomats Killed (Arafat ordered) - http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=26856
Ford — SS Mayaguez Incident - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mayagüez_incident
Ford — Axe Murder Incident - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Axe_Murder_Incident
Carter — Iranian Hostage Crisis - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_hostage_crisis
Carter — Operation Eagle Claw (rescue) - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Eagle_Claw
Reagan — 1981 Gulf of Sidra Incident - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_of_Sidra_incident_(1981)
Reagan — KAL Flight 007 Shootdown - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_Air_Lines_Flight_007
Reagan — Operation Urgent Fury - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invasion_of_Grenada
Reagan — Marine Barracks bombing - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1983_Beirut_barracks_bombing
Reagan — Hostages in Lebanon - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran-Contra_affair
Reagan — Army Maj. Arthur D. Nicholson Incident - http://www.usmlm.org/home/nicholson/weinnich85.htm
Reagan — Zona Rosa Attack - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1985_Zona_Rosa_attacks
Reagan — Operation El Dorado Canyon - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_El_Dorado_Canyon
Reagan — Iran Air Flight 655 - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_Air_Flight_655
Reagan — USS Stark Missile Attack (FFG-31) - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Stark_(FFG-31)
Reagan — Operation Attain Document - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Action_in_the_Gulf_of_Sidra_(1986)
Reagan — 1989 Gulf of Sidra Incident - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_of_Sidra_incident_(1989)
Bush — Operation Just Cause - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_invasion_of_Panama
Clinton — Waco Siege/Branch Davidians - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waco_Siege
Clinton — 1993 World Trade Center Bombing - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_World_Trade_Center_bombing
Clinton — Oklahoma City Bombing - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oklahoma_City_bombing
[ *controversial - http://www.jaynadavis.com/ ]
Clinton — Black Hawk Down - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Mogadishu_(1993)
Clinton — USS Cole Bombing (DDG-67) - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Cole_bombing
Clinton — TWA Flight 800 - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TWA_Flight_800
[ *controversial - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TWA_Flight_800_alternative_theories - http://twa800.com/ ]
Clinton — Khobar Towers Bombing - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khobar_Towers_bombing
Clinton — 1998 US Embassy Bombings - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1998_U.S._embassy_bombings
Clinton — Operation Infinite Reach - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Infinite_Reach
Bush — Hainan Island incident - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hainan_Island_incident
Bush — 9/11 Attack - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9/11
Bush — US Diplomatic Security Specialist Murders - http://www.nysun.com/opinion/getting-away-with-murder/68852/
Bush — Riyadh Compound Bombings - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Riyadh_compound_bombings
Bush — Khobar Massacre - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/29_May_2004_Al-Khobar_massacres
Obama — MV Maersk Alabama Piracy - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MV_Maersk_Alabama

Please help add more so I can update this. If there is another event that happened within a particular President’s term (hostages taken, military killed in actions regarding the crisis, etc...), give me the info and any pertinent links. Still working on it and adding information...

Here’s where it all started, and then some FReepers started giving me some more events.. :-)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2226437/posts?page=5#5

AND THEN... it’s turned into this one... LOL...


277 posted on 06/08/2009 9:24:54 AM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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