Posted on 06/06/2009 6:24:20 AM PDT by Zakeet
As I stated at the top of my post, I DON’T ADVOCATE VIGILANTISM
I agree we can’t let the leftist media box us in or define us. But there are absolutes in life and human rights are at the core. Without that core, nothing else will matter.
Time to take our medicine eh! (wink-wink)
Tiller-Killer abortions are always evil. Financial transactions may or may not be. This is pretty lame.
And neither would I, short of a social breakdown of a magnitude that requires the people to resist the renegade government by force of arms.
And a nut like Roeder should have been in a nut house, not out looking for something to get enraged at.
That always screws up an argument.
No. I'm pointing out how you and Churchill can both find a way to justify murder and terrorism, as long as you don't like the victim. In both cases, it's vile. And in both cases, extremely unhelpful to the the cause you are ostensibly promoting.
If only it were this one issue. Of course I don’t believe Jim is running a forum advocating murder. If I did, I would not be here now. I’m just getting really turned off by what I’m seeing on a wide range of issues here and the way some people are conducting themselves.
Virtually all of this philosophical difference can be resolved by acknowledging a sovereign God who steers events, even the things that the very devil endeavors to do, as He wants. This is how Tiller’s death by bullet can be poetic justice and Roeder’s squeezing of the trigger an abomination, at the very same time.
Killing a few Nazi soldiers on D-day didn't end the holocaust. A better analogy would be killing one gas chamber operator didn't end it, another took his place. Someone will take Tiller's place.
The way it ends is with the restoration of civilization including all the protections of the law to everyone. Sometimes that requires a war and great sacrifice. Sometimes it's a political battle. I don't see how this one is anything but political.
We are loaded down with trolls and other left wing people trying to bring us down. Run now and you are serving their purpose. Do you really think the most radical statements made on FR are NOT the work of left wing retards trying to get the statements into print to be used against the most conservative site on the Internet? Then you are deluding yourself. If you quit you are letting them run your life. Fight back against the ones making statements you don’t like. Jim Rob and the administrators are banning people pretty fast but they can’t get all the leftards off, it is just impossible to do so.
I’m not your buddy, and pictures like this do not constructively contribute to the argument anymore than pictures of any crime do. I’ve seen more people turned off to prolifers because of these sorts of pictures than I’ve seen abortionists converted. If you can point to an article were someone saw these sorts of pictures and went OH MAN, ABORTION IS NOW MURDER, I’VE SEEN THE LIGHT, please do so, I would like to read it. As it stands, the only people that I have seen convinced of their effectiveness are the same people that just can’t wait to post them. And I am talking about convincing people in the real world, not on some ultra right or left message board. No matter the intention of the photo, the result invariably is to shock, not to educate. That is what I am most concerned about. Of course there are people that are going to think that shocking others is the most effective argument, and I disagree. You run the risk of a backlash from the people you are attempting to convert, and that is counterproductive when you are trying to save the lives of unborn children.
Unlike being a run of the mill concentration camp guard, which was a duty acceptable to many Germans to carry out, Killer-Tiller abortions are horribly unpopular among abortionists. And it isn’t just the danger of being killed by a nut.
Regarding my post #130: 3rd paragraph: Briticism????? make that criticism. (fingers bad)
We were taught to just step over the bodies and enjoy the stories.
Same here. I know what Tiller's occupation was and didn't approve of it and want to fix our legal system so that it is vigorously and successfully suppressed and eliminated.
On the other hand I didn't know Tiller personally, and frankly don't care one way or the other what happened to him.
He appears to have been shot in church ~ which is undoubtedly a surprise to his friends and his enemies.
Imagine that, a late term abortionist, a mass murderer, sitting in church on Sunday ~ it is to wonder!
You just never know who's in the next pew eh!
Can’t argue with you there. I’m just wary of those who would claim to act in God’s place to take life.
If I stand up to a bully I risk provoking his rage.
And that’s a risk worth taking if I have any courage at all.
Churchill hates capitalist swine. You (and I) hate abortionist swine. Churchill and you both cheer when those you hate are murdered to further a political cause. I don’t. You tell me, other than the fact that capitalists aren’t swine and abortionists are, what makes you different than him when it comes to being terrorist sympathizers?
Killing a whole huge bunch of Nazis ended the killing. We could have waited a year and used nukes on Germany though.
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