Posted on 06/04/2009 10:23:17 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
Atheist Ads in Chicago Say Man Created God
by Christine Dao*
“In the beginning, man created God,” according to recent advertisements posted on 25 Chicago buses. The Indiana Atheist Bus Campaign targeted the country’s third largest city to espouse “the idea that man created God as well as all religions.”[1]
The ads were inspired by similar campaigns elsewhere, including...
(Excerpt) Read more at icr.org ...
No, it cannot.
Its effects on objects, however, can be measured.
Gravitational wave detectors measure gravitational waves directly.
90,900,000.
What does # of hits have to do with the price of eggs in China?
Metmom said: Archaeology supports the Bible. If you do a google search of the topic, you will find more sources than you have time to read.
I said: This is the internet we're speaking of...if you do a google search of ghosts, the Loch Ness Monster, and ESP, you'll find more sources about each than you have time to read.
You said: ....buuut not so much when you google "skepticism".
I said: I just googled "skepticism". It gave me 11,800,000 hits.
You said: Oh, and by the way, how many hits do you get when you pull up UFO? What does # of hits have to do with the price of eggs in China?
As you can see, I was simply pointing out that you were incorrect in your assertion that there weren't too many sources to read when you google "skepticism".
Just for the record, googling "eggs in China" produces 78,300 hits.
Additionally, this particular incident IS well documented. This guy’s medical records meticulously reflect his intake and output, observations, time, etc. etc. etc.
Since a well-documented miracle has taken place, I can only assume that it was written up in a medical journal.
Source, please.
“Gravitational wave detectors measure gravitational waves directly.” [excerpt]Oh?
Oh?
Elaborate.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravitational_wave_detector
Do they work in free-fall?
Yes. From the article:
"Space-based interferometers, such as LISA and DECIGO, are also being developed. LISA's design calls for three test masses forming an equilateral triangle, with lasers from each spacecraft to each other spacecraft forming two independent interferometers."
That looks more like a description of what they are trying to do, not whats been done.
But tell me, are they using interferometers to detect gravity? (ie, using the affects of gravity on photons)
From what you posted, it looks like they are.
Well, a number of gravity wave detectors have already been built. LISA (Laser Interferometer Space Antenna) will be the first dedicated space-based gravitational wave detector, due to be launched around 2019 or so.
But tell me, are they using interferometers to detect gravity? (ie, using the affects of gravity on photons)
From what you posted, it looks like they are.
As I understand it, the lasers are used to measure the distance between a number of separated masses. As a gravitational wave passes by, it will induce motion in them. Even with "arms" 4 kilometers long, the strongest gravitational waves will only change the distance between the ends of the arms by at most roughly 10 to the minus 18th meters...so the lasers have to be really accurate!
“As I understand it, the lasers are used to measure the distance between a number of separated masses. As a gravitational wave passes by, it will induce motion in them. Even with "arms" 4 kilometers long, the strongest gravitational waves will only change the distance between the ends of the arms by at most roughly 10 to the minus 18th meters...so the lasers have to be really accurate!” [excerpt]Ok, so the gravity effects the 'arms', and then the laser interferometers measure how much the 'arms' have been effected?
You misunderstood...the point was you dismissed the internet articles when it comes to medical miracles, lumping them in with UFO’s, aliens etc., but “not so much” when it comes to “skepticism”.
In other words, anything that doesn’t jive with your worldview on the web is trash, yet anything that does jive with your world view is as good as the gospel on the internet.
Capeche?
Surely you can google medical miracles if you can google all these other things including eggs in China?
Surely you understand that unexplained cases are in the journals? Cancer remissions, other scientifically/medically unexplained things?
For instance, a good place to start would be the earliest known case of a human being to survive birth, in terms of gestation/weight, whatever...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-437236/Born-just-22-weeks—Amilla-allowed-home.html
You might not call these pictures a miracle but I sure do. And she’s not even the record!
You can pretend they’re explainable, but this won’t change reality let alone explain them.
Saying they’re explainable but not really explaining doesn’t really help you very much.
Ditto.
***Metmom said: Archaeology supports the Bible. If you do a google search of the topic, you will find more sources than you have time to read.
I said: This is the internet we’re speaking of...if you do a google search of ghosts, the Loch Ness Monster, and ESP, you’ll find more sources about each than you have time to read. ***
If you had googled it in good faith, you would have come up with plenty of sources for the historical reliability of the Bible that are based on archaeological evidence, not the kind of hearsay the other items you listed go by.
Atheists, agnostics, and skeptics have been accusing the Bible as being unreliable for centuries. There’s nothing new under the sun in that respect. What is new, is the amount of actual historical archeological evidence to support the mention of people, places, and events mentioned in the Bible that people at one time accused as being fictional.
http://www.christiananswers.net/q-abr/abr-a008.html
http://www.facingthechallenge.org/arch2.php
http://www.faithbasedonfacts.org/main/?q=node/84
***Metmom said: Archaeology supports the Bible. If you do a google search of the topic, you will find more sources than you have time to read.
I said: This is the internet we’re speaking of...if you do a google search of ghosts, the Loch Ness Monster, and ESP, you’ll find more sources about each than you have time to read. ***
For that matter, the same could be said of evolution. This is the internet we’re speaking of. How do I then know that anything posted on there about the *evidence* for the ToE is reliable, by your standards?
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