Posted on 06/03/2009 7:55:32 AM PDT by Sig Sauer P220
JERUSALEM Sirens blared across Israel on Tuesday as the nation carried out its biggest-ever "doomsday" drill meant to simulate a catastrophic attack. The faux fears, however, were overshadowed by deepening anxiety in Jerusalem that Israel is heading for an unavoidable political showdown with President Barack Obama over the center-right government's refusal to stop building Jewish homes in the predominantly Palestinian West Bank. Yedioth Ahronoth, Israel's largest daily newspaper, carried a front-page story Tuesday bluntly titled: "The American Threat." Its biggest competitor, Maariv, carried a bold headline: "Pressure." The building apprehension comes as Obama is preparing to make a direct appeal to the Islamic world in Cairo on Thursday that's widely seen as a chance for the U.S. to launch a new, more cooperative era with Arab nations in the Middle East. Central to the success of Obama's attempts to reshape America's image in the region will be a shift in U.S. policy toward Israel.
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Suppose Iran nukes an Israeli target. Israel retaliates with several nukes. The rest of the Arab world decides it is time to settle with Israel once and for all. Obama decides to forsake Israel (a little hope and change there) and warns it against further use of nuclear weapons. The Arabs invade Israel and it is cast into a life and death struggle. If the Samson option is not used, Israel might be overrun. There is your hope and change.
I do not believe that Israel would be overrun and in the event, I do not believe they would withhold the Samson option. I also am ignoring divine intervention in this scenario. The one assumption here that I think is on the firmest ground is Obama’s stab in the back.
Thanks America’s Jews. You have stabbed Israel in the back to show how liberal you are.
I didn't mean Israel's destruction, I meant how can Jews hate Israel? I don't like liberals but I certainly wouldn't want them or America destroyed (although liberals leaving the country is a nice vision). Surely, Jews read the Torah? And, even if they don't Israeli's are Jewish - they are their own people!
Yes, and the Vichy government was French. Didn't stop them from turning on their own people, even in their own country!
I choose neutrality on Israel. The territorial claims are not clear to me. I reject the premise that anyone is “fighting for me”. That is too conveniently used as an excuse for warmongering. People fight for their own self-interest, if they have any idea why they are fighting at all.
Were you ever pro Israel? Or have you always been neutral? Are you bothered about Muslims taking over Europe or is that not any of your business?
Yes, faithful ones are, but there are a lot of Labor Party-loving liberal Israelis who really believe, much the same way that many German Jews did in the 1930s, you can achieve peace with those who hate you.
Jews are God's favored and chosen people but they consistently, IMHO, choose the wrong path to trod...Had they'd done what he commanded when they entered the Promised Land and carried out the Herem; there would be no violent, dangerous and militant Palestinians to oppose them today.
You can cite any Bible verses you want but Israel is far from caving in. Netanyahu is the Prime Minister and he stared down 0bama the other day. You give Israelis too little credit. Israelis are on the front line every day with their Muslim enemies
American Jews are not single issue voters. They don’t vote only on Israel but unfortunately vote for liberals. I assure you most US Jews support Israel but are pulled in the wrong direction by their liberal ideas
Blacks didn’t elect 0bama.
Jews did not elect 0bama
America’s liberal white people gave 0bama his victory
Yes, and the Vichy government was French. Didn’t stop them from turning on their own people, even in their own country!
I know this happens throughout history but I just find it so hard to believe it about the Jewish people - having been persecuted for so long would long for the destruction of their own.
Jews are God’s favored and chosen people but they consistently,.........
If you really feel that way then you should support Israel. Just in your own self interest you should support Israel. There is a Muslim drive for world domination and Jews are taking it on frontally. So are we in Iraq and Afganistan
I know this happens throughout history but I just find it so hard to believe it about the Jewish people - having been persecuted for so long would long for the destruction of their own............
American Jews do not want Israel destroyed so what are you talking about? With 6 million Jews in America there are too few to elect an 0bama. Americans elected 0bama. Your neighbors and family elected 0bama
Jews did not elect 0bama
Jews voted in the 80+ percentile for him...
Americas liberal white people gave 0bama his victory...
Probably 100 percent...of which Jewish voters make up a large percentage.
There are 6 million Jews in America and 300 million Americans.
Tell me how they managed to get 0bama elected. The math ain’t there. Blacks are 11% of Americans and couldn’t elect 0bama either
White liberals and other whites elected 0bamma.
No argument here BUT do some history. Jews have always been reactive to aggression rather than proactive. From the 1967 War on through, it was Israel which was attacked, never being the attacker. It is a Jewish trait, it seems, to take the first punch rather than to deliver it.
Israel can obliterate Iranian nuclear program. But they will have to use ground penetrating nukes. Maybe this is the best way out
Jews have always been reactive to aggression ..........
They jammed into Gaza last fall and quieted down the missile/rocket bombardment. Was that reactive?
If you want Israel to take the initiative what do you suggest?
Most of them dont like Israel anyway. So they Hope that Israels status will Change from existent to non-existent.
I was trying to understand the above comment - NOT saying Jews wanted the destruction of Israel....I got confused on what the blogger was saying and I was trying to get clear what they were saying, that’s all.
OK
I know lots of liberal Jews who belive you me want Israel to survive. But they vote for 0bamma due to their liberal fixations
That's right. If Israel is hit with a debilitating nuclear or wmd attack, the militarys of Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Syria and probably Lebanon and Jordan would be destroyed. Perhaps Israel would wait for signs of mobilization, but not necessarily, since a successful attack would obviously represent a threat to Israel's nuclear capability.
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