Dr. George Tiller: a physician who helped people in "desperate circumstances"(Freepers are "swill")

Blue Oregon.com ^ | June 1, 2009 | Carla Axtman

[bdeaner]

This was an act of political aggression against a doctor who helped people who were in absolutely desperate circumstances

He didn't give a damn about 40,000 + of these persons and THEIR "desperate circumstances":



Instead, he left them to rot in a dumpster.

[pray4liberty]

Yeah, a woman who wants to be able to do her 'thing' without the result of motherhood is in a desperate circumstance. Disgusting.

We are not back in the dark ages with birth control. Abortion should not be necessary at all. If women want to screw around without consequences they can get their tubes tied. Men can get the Big V.

[Nosterrex]

I'm sure Hitler was helping out those poor Jews in their desperate situations. It is amazing to see such self-deception in print by someone actually paid to write articles. First of all, how many of those women having abortions did Carla know? I suspect that she did not know any, and she has no facts to back up anything in her irrational article. She does not define what a desperate circumstance is. Are we talking about a mother's life or our we talking about abortion for birth control? The unproven assumption is that Tiller was only helping women in the grasp of death and working only for the benefit of these women. Of course, the killing of an unborn baby is not a desperate act, so no reason to consider Tiller's murders. I'm certain that Tiller do not charge these women for his acts of mercy (sarcasm off).

[Jim from C-Town]

You stated:#2. If one would be so desperate if they got pregnant, USE A CONDOM
or some form of birth control.

Here is another idea. If you are not willing to accept the responsibility of of a child. Don't have sex at all. The ability to remain celibate is not impossible and in many cases would be the best situation.

Responsibility is the entire point. Actions have consequences. If you become pregnant and can not afford the child. Give it up for adoption. The idea that it would be better to abort a child then allow a person other than the birth mother to raise them is narcissism writ large.

[TADSLOS]

Hey Carla, those thousands of late term murdered fetuses butchered and killed by your savior of a "doctor" never had the chance to experience desperation; their innocence just snuffed out for inconveniencing people who made conscious decisions to act out their sexual urges without thought to "desperate circumstances" leading them to make equally conscious and premeditated decisions to be complicit in murder. It's obvious that you fail to understand that though. I doubt you ever will.

Your "angelic" doctor is now in hell where he belongs and his killer will be served his justice on earth and God's judgment in the hereafter as well. Murder is murder, whether it's a serial baby killer or a demented, blind with rage fool. Good riddance to both.

[ozarkgirl]

This was a man who was treating patients in dire need of help. His cold-blooded murder for what looks like political and religious reasons is revolting. The justifications for his murder by the repugnant Randall Terry and the swill that is Free Republic are a stark reminder that the Americanized version of the Taliban are alive and well.

Just wow. How does one get so wrong?

I'ts okay to murder defenseless babes but revolting to murder someone who kills defenseless babes?

All murder is wrong and what this guy did, the one who killed Tiller, is deplorable. But to justify killing babies who could have lived outside the womb? Just wow.

[TigersEye]

If its so ethical, why aren’t there hundreds of doctors willing to perform infanticide and help these good women? Why only two in the whole country?

And why does the 0baMaoMao administration have to make policies that will force doctors, nurses and hospitals to perform abortions? Is that necessary because the vast majority of health care providers are unethical and uncaring?

[bluegirl]

There are outright lies in this article and one linked to it. They claim that doctors will not help women whose baby has a terminal diagnosis or women whose own health is in jeopardy. Neither is true.

If a baby has a terminal diagnosis, the mother does not have to carry it to term. There are many doctors who will induce labor early. The baby is stillborn or dies soon after birth, just like it would have if full term. The difference is that the doctor does nothing to intentionally kill the baby. I suspect the babies Tiller aborted had birth defects, but not fatal ones. It is not necessary to kill babies that would die anyway.

The same goes for the health of the mother. If a woman has cancer and needs chemotherapy (an example in the article), there are lots of doctors who would deliver that baby, early if necessary. The only reason to go to Tiller was if you wanted the baby dead rather than premature.

[paulycy]

His cold-blooded murder for what looks like political and religious reasons is revolting.

She might have a sliver of integrity if only she were referring also to that slain soldier in Little Rock.

But she's not and she won't and she doesn't.

[TigersEye]

Instead, he left them to rot in a dumpster.

Actually Dr. Tiller had his own crematorium. If you can imagine how big a pile of 60,000 fetus corpses would be you can understand why he needed one.

[bcsco]

We are not back in the dark ages with birth control. Abortion should not be necessary at all. If women want to screw around without consequences they can get their tubes tied. Men can get the Big V.

Absolutely right. There's little excuse any longer, and makes it doubly disgusting.

[ozarkgirl]

I am still amazed he had such a standing in a church to have a position, even an usher.

I couldn't believe that either! Yes, every church should welcome all sinners but giving someone a "position" in the church signifies that person is someone to turn to, someone who follows the faith in their life.

[bdeaner]

Here is another idea. If you are not willing to accept the responsibility of of a child. Don't have sex at all. The ability to remain celibate is not impossible and in many cases would be the best situation.

[pray4liberty]

Out of all the articles I’ve read about Tiller and his killer, I haven’t read where exactly the bullet entered the body of the good doctor. His head? His heart?

I don't know. Interesting...how do we know for sure he's dead, and not alive to go underground with his nefarious activities? Federal witness protection maybe? Staged death??

[Cold Heart]

See post #20, first sentence.

[bdeaner]

Actually Dr. Tiller had his own crematorium.

Oh! You mean like these:



FYI: These are ovens used for the Nazi cremation of the Jews.

[ozarkgirl]

I have talked to my doctor friends, who say at that point in the trimester it is almost never needed to do an abortion to save the mother’s life.

As a mother, and I think for almost all mothers, I would gladly give my life if it meant the life of my child. The only good reason would be if we both lost our lives and even then, only if I had other children that I was required to raise.

[Mashood]

Exactamundo! The hipocratic oath states “First, do no harm”. Kind a hard for a “doctor” to follow his oath when he’s scrambling viable baby brains.

[TigersEye]

I know what that picture is and, yes, just like those although more modern in construction I would presume.

[Erik Latranyi]

IF ANY LIBERAL WANTS TO COMPLAIN ABOUT THE KILLING OF DR TILLER......

....tell them that it was liberal justice that released Scott Roeder after he was arrested for bomb-making, etc.

If conservatives ran the country, Dr Tiller would be alive and killing babies today.