Men 'live longer' if they marry a younger woman

Telegraph (U.K.) ^ | June 2, 2009 | Murray Wardrop

[SunkenCiv]

:’) His wife was, hmm, nearly ten years older? The speculation has been that some of his literary ideas came from his life. :’)

[Bokababe]

"re: Men with younger wives are also more likely to have younger children, and maybe that's a motivator for daddy to stick around longer -- seeing them grow up.))) That's assuming there's anything to this study. Like many have pointed out, there's a difference between cause and corollary --

You are right about the difference between causality and corollary -- if the older men who lived longer all happened to also own German Shepherds and like American Idol, it wouldn't mean that this caused their longevity.

But I also recall how a lot of the old immigrant men (when I was a kid) had much younger wives. They'd come to the US, make something of themselves and then when they had something to offer, would marry a woman 20 or more years their junior and have a first family. It was more the norm than the exception.

My dad was 45 when I was born, my mother was 14 years younger and Dad made it to 93. Lots of friends with similar family constellations -- there was nothing particularly lascivious about it. It was just the way it was -- a guy didn't take on a wife and have a family until he could afford it. Pretty old-fashioned, huh?

[AFPhys]

“Men like sex food and work.Food sex and work.Work food and sex.For recreation they like to hunt and fish.To contribute to the house they like to work outside.Even if they are done they will create other projects.”

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You have me pegged, for certain, LOL! I don’t mind helping with taking care of the kids some, though.

[Mamzelle]

re: You're entitled to a little background, as it were.)))

Well, I'd advise against that. I'm entitled to no such thing. Ever since I had a bad stalking experience (a liberal came after my home and business) I've been very leery of offering any personal info on a public forum at all, even for an interesting chat like this. Even had to change my persona on FR (I've been here longer than my date indicates).

[pray4liberty]

Thanks for the warning. Yes, I've revealed some facts about my life, but they could apply to a lot of women like me, and I have not ever revealed my real name to anybody, even people who FReepmail me.

Sorry to hear about your bad experiences though.

[Mamzelle]

I've tried to explain my motivation. I just plain enjoy showing up on wimmin-hater threads and stirring the pot. Men ragging on their womenfolk makes me want to stick a pin in the boy's balloon.

I had a kind of epiphany at the gym some years back. The Old Duffers are deaf, and don't realize how easily they're overheard talking into their beers. They were sitting there rating the women around then, criticizing particular parts of their anatomies, moaning about their wives and their deserving of finer specimens of flesh.

Before I just thought of them as the Duffers. But I immediately noticed their rheumy eyes, their bad teeth (or perfect dentures), , the brown spots on their scaley scalps, their spindly shanks--and worst of all, their old man flat, deflated, wobbly rear ends.

So when their counterparts on FR want to start a thread ragging on womenfolks and their bodily imperfections, the Duffers always come to mind. Remember that poem about seeing lice in the hair of a snobbish matron at church.."See yourselves as others see ye."

One lout in particular used to show up regularly on FR, I think he sold some book called "Don't Marry a Horrible American Woman" and kept posting these horrid photos of women in thongs. (Mail-order Brazilian concubines) That one, I didn't like at all.

[fatima]

You love to play with them when you first walk in the door when dinner is ready and help put them to bed.Down side -your wife is a terrible housekeeper unless she gives you sex 2 times a week-

[Mamzelle]

re: But I also recall how a lot of the old immigrant men (when I was a kid) had much younger wives. They'd come to the US, make something of themselves and then when they had something to offer, would marry a woman 20 or more years their junior and have a first family. It was more the norm than the exception.)))

Well, you can visit an old cemetery and see the history of a man with many wifely tombstones attesting to their youth. They'd get worn out with childbirth and farmwifery pretty quick. That's where all those fairy-tale stepmother legends got started, because there were lots of stepmothers.

And it was expected that a woman would stay at home until a man with enough means offered for her.

And think, how few years have passed and here we are with Prop 8>

[pray4liberty]

Before I just thought of them as the Duffers. But I immediately noticed their rheumy eyes, their bad teeth (or perfect dentures), the brown spots on their scaley scalps, their spindly shanks--and worst of all, their old man flat, deflated, wobbly rear ends.

Heh, heh. You are too funny. I am glad I'm not married to one of those.

[Mamzelle]

Benjamin Franklin had some very witty things to say about older women.

[Mamzelle]

I didn't even notice their appearance until they had such hateful things to say about the women around them. Then their outsides suddenly matched their insides.

[Bokababe]

You are right about the wear-out factor with younger farm women.

That's where all those fairy-tale stepmother legends got started, because there were lots of stepmothers.

But this "stepmother legend" actually came from a different source --little historical trivia.

The Brother Grimm, from whom we get most of the "wicked stepmother legends" (Snow White, Cinderella)-- weren't the original sources of those stories, instead they took many of the original legends from German and Eastern European folk stories and just adapted them. Some of the original stories very scary and harsh, too harsh for German mothers to want to buy to read to their children, so they changed the stories to make them more marketable. The most noticeable change they made was to substitute "wicked stepmother" for characters that were originally very nasty "mothers" in the original legends.

In the original legend of Snow White (and the original Grimm version of the story), the "wicked stepmother" was actually Snow White's own mother who, consumed with jealousy of her own daughter's beauty, repeatedly tried to kill her. But the Grimms changed even their first version of it, to make it more salable & appropriate for German family life.

Personally, I think that the Evil Queen as Snow White's own mother makes much more sense, but the original story would never have been a happy little Disney movie -- more like a horror flick.

[AFPhys]

LOL... You’re pretty sure of yourself! Rightfully so!

Actually, I love playing with the kids so much that I actually stayed home from work for three years when they were young so I could help them learn to read and other such things. I was always a terrible housekeeper, and I always gave my wife sex more than twice a week. I’m not crazy about infants, but once they learn to talk I am THERE!

Wife has always been a terrible housekeeper, though... sex or no sex, job or no job, ... LOL but I can’t talk! You are right about my being much more interested in the structure of the house and the outdoors stuff than what goes on inside it, as far as cleaning and maintenance is concerned.

[pray4liberty]

They were sitting there rating the women around then, criticizing particular parts of their anatomies, moaning about their wives and their deserving of finer specimens of flesh.

Mentally, they're 18 and think they are high-school hunks. They need to take a good look in the mirror!

[fatima]

Hehehehe,I was just teasing.You have me laughing :)((((Hugs)))))

[mrsmel]

DH is a dead ringer for Kenny Rogers, and I love his leonine full head of silver hair. No spindly shanks either-thighs like tree trunks!

[mrsmel]

Hi Mamzelle, I’m not questioning your motivation for contributing to the thread-I enjoy your presentation of a different perspective, and if something’s posted here, it’s fair game for all members. I’m simply not clear-my own lack of comprehension, not your fault:)-if you believe that no “May/December” marriage could possibly be a relationship of true love between two individuals who have things in common other than age, or whose differences complement each other. I think I understand your point about “duffers” (LOL) who target younger women simply because they’re younger, and see them as “fresh meat”, but isn’t there an allowance for two people who just happen to fall in love despite an age difference, when neither was particularly seeking any particular demographic?

[ansel12]

Here is something that is incredibly strong evidence of what everybody but stressed out feminists seem to already know.

A major brothel owned by a female that knows the business is bringing in male prostitutes, is she looking for 18 year old studs or even 25 year olds, no.

Bobbi Davis, the owner of the bordello located about 150 miles northwest of Las Vegas, is set to start interviewing men who aspire to be prostitutes.

“We’ll start out with one or two,” Davis said, adding that she is “looking for men in their early 30s to mid-50s” who are in good shape and want to entertain women.

[Mamzelle]

I already noted what I consider a successful May/December marriage, 20 years successful. But the drawbacks for the wife at the end game are clear. While the preceding 20 yrs have been enjoyable for them, due to a financial windfall he enjoyed before they married, that stage is now over. She has ended up not as an “old man’s darling” but as an old man’s caretaker. The implication now is that her relative youth will be spent in loyal service in the next few years. The husband was the recipient of her youth 20 yrs ago, and remains the beneficiary. Them’s the breaks.

[MPJackal]

I can only hope it is true.