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Missing Jet: 'Fire' Spotted On Atlantic Ocean
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Posted on 06/01/2009 7:11:10 PM PDT by traumer

A commercial pilot has said he saw a "fire" on the Atlantic Ocean close to the route of a missing Air France plane.

The pilot, for TAMAirlines, said he spotted what appeared to be orange marks in the ocean near to where the jet went missing.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: airbus; airfrance; france; missing; planecrash
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To: traumer

Airbus —> composite rudders?

BTw. a friend of mine said the A3?? 2001 Queens NY
crasher had been rolled,and had big time plastic-repairs
on its rudder


101 posted on 06/02/2009 3:48:43 AM PDT by element92
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To: stboz

Oh no! Another anonymous terrorist attack like TWA 800? Those darn terrorists are trying to cause terror without taking credit for it. Very clever. (/sarc)


102 posted on 06/02/2009 4:28:53 AM PDT by ItisaReligionofPeace
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To: lonestar

Harris is a very common name in Houston.... I wonder if they’re related to dentist-murderere Clara Harris?


103 posted on 06/02/2009 4:38:46 AM PDT by SilvieWaldorfMD (Airlines can take their $15-per-checked-bag surcharge and shove it!)
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To: SilvieWaldorfMD

Michael Harris and his wife Anne were fine people who lived in The Woodlands until last year, when he was assigned by Devon Energy to help with geologic operations in the Rio office. You couldn’t have met a nicer guy. Please keep their family in your prayers.


104 posted on 06/02/2009 4:47:29 AM PDT by HopeSprings
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To: Thrownatbirth

“I heard that the Airbus is a fine aircraft.”

“As long as the Italian Tab A fits into the French Slot B.”

6 weeks ago, I was on a flight from Atlanta to Paris. (Air France) We taxied out to the runway, and sat awhile, and were then notified that the RADAR on the PLANE wasn’t working & they needed to fix it since we’d be flying over the Atlantic at night!! 2 hours later, they said it was fixed, and off we went. Knowing what I do today, I’d probably have clawed my way off that plane if I had to.


105 posted on 06/02/2009 4:49:41 AM PDT by JMKirnan
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To: SilvieWaldorfMD
They lived in the Woodlands...nice neighborhood. Neighbors interveiwed on TV were visably upset...some too much to talk. No mention of children.

I think they said he was with an oil company. They were going to Spain.

106 posted on 06/02/2009 5:01:19 AM PDT by lonestar (Obama is turning Bush's "mess" into a catastrophe.)
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To: Cincinna; 2111USMC

Thanks for the ping; link to the original thread and list.


107 posted on 06/02/2009 5:38:06 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: Cincinna
thanks, for the ping.

108 posted on 06/02/2009 5:42:57 AM PDT by skinkinthegrass (When you put Democrats in charge, stupid / deadly things happen... :^)
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To: SilvieWaldorfMD

“Harris is a very common name in Houston.... I wonder if they’re related to dentist-murderere Clara Harris?”

You can see information on the couple here http://www.thestate.com/local/story/810382.html , some information on the crash, put doesn’t seem to be anything new.


109 posted on 06/02/2009 5:43:34 AM PDT by Peter Horry (Never were abilities so much below mediocrity so well rewarded - John Randolph)
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To: OldMissileer
The Europeans do not know how, or care, to design seats that are of any comfort on overseas flights.

I've heard that complaint about Boeing too. The fact of the matter is: Airlines, not the plane mfg's, are responsible for choosing interior components and layout.

110 posted on 06/02/2009 5:49:32 AM PDT by AFreeBird
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To: traumer; All

Here is some new information http://www.thestate.com/breaking/story/810622.html , they think they have found the wreckage.


111 posted on 06/02/2009 5:55:09 AM PDT by Peter Horry (Never were abilities so much below mediocrity so well rewarded - John Randolph)
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To: Prophet in the wilderness
but, it is only good at higher altitudes when the pilot can point the nose of the plane down and gain airspeed....

I would think that since the RAT has to be used for landing; low speed, low alt., and nose up, that having to point the nose down would not be that large a requirement. If you have enough airspeed to keep the plane in the air, you should have enough air to turn the turbine for the required power.


112 posted on 06/02/2009 5:57:15 AM PDT by AFreeBird
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To: traumer

6 AMERICANS ONBOARD

Air France has a released a list of the nationalities of those aboard flight AF447 which disappeared about 300km northeast of the coastal Brazilian city of Natal, near the archipelago of Fernando de Noronha, at 0220 GMT (11.20pm BET).

Brazilian and French passengers top the list for most number of passengers onboard the missing aircraft.

The plane, an Airbus A330-200 with 216 passengers and 12 crew onboard departed Rio de Janiero at 7pm local time (10pm GMT) and was due to arrive at Paris’ Charles de Gaulle 2 airport at 11.15am local Paris time (0915 GMT).

A crisis center has being set up at Charles de Gaulle where the plane had been due to land at 11.15am local Paris time (0915 GMT).

A massive air search of the coast of Brazil has so far failed to find any trace of the plane.

Brazilian: 80
French: 76
German: 18
Italian: 9
US: 6
Chinese: 5
Hungarian: 4
Spanish: 2
UK: 2
Morocco: 2
Ireland: 2
Angola: 1
Argentina: 1
Austria: 1
Belgium: 1
Iceland: 1
Philippines: 1
Norway: 1
Poland: 1
Romania: 1
Russia: 1
Slovakia: 1
Sweden: 1
Turkey: 1
7 of these are children and 1 baby

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113 posted on 06/02/2009 6:08:40 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: DainBramage; xjcsa

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airbus_A330#Accidents_and_incidents


114 posted on 06/02/2009 6:46:17 AM PDT by Zeppelin
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To: LikeLight

This sighting is close to “St. Peter and St. Paul Rocks” a small batch of rocky islets with a lighthouse and bunker for scientists.


115 posted on 06/02/2009 7:00:41 AM PDT by TaxRelief (Walmart: Keeping my family on-budget since 1993.)
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To: TaxRelief

http://wlol.arlhs.com/index.php?mode=zones&zone=SPP


116 posted on 06/02/2009 7:02:15 AM PDT by TaxRelief (Walmart: Keeping my family on-budget since 1993.)
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To: JMKirnan
2 hours later, they said it was fixed

Your flight was the post-repair test. :-)
117 posted on 06/02/2009 7:02:51 AM PDT by Thrownatbirth (.....Iraq Invasion fan since '91.)
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To: dusttoyou

Same here. I flew into San Juan once on an airbus. The seat I was in wouldn’t lock in the upright position and when they lowered the landing gear it sounded like it was breaking off.


118 posted on 06/02/2009 7:29:48 AM PDT by painter (No wonder democrats don't mind taxes.THEY DON'T PAY THEM !)
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To: Jet Jaguar

Probably right about fly by wire in general, but it’s the Boeing philosophy that the pilot can always disengage the computers and have final authority that makes them safer in my opinion.

Remember the airbus that hit the mountains in Germany? They could have pulled out if the computer had let them overstress the airplane. Better to crack the wing spars and miss the mountain I say, but that’s just me.....


119 posted on 06/02/2009 7:42:47 AM PDT by AmericanDave (Party like it is 1773...!!!)
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To: Not now, Not ever!; ltc8k6; cammie

The “into the trees” was an A320.

The A330 fatal incident is described here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A330_test_flight_crash

Q: What’s the difference between an A320 and a chainsaw?
A: 400 trees per second.


120 posted on 06/02/2009 7:45:16 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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