Sanctioning by whom? The Sons of Liberty probably had the sympathies of something less than 20 percent of the total population in 1775. "While the evils were sufferable," going to war with the Mother Country was unthinkable by the vast majority of Colonials. But the Sons of Liberty were inspired by the Fire of Liberty; and so managed to start a war, and then (somehow) managed to win it — arguably with some highly timely divine interventions along the way....
You want to talk about "just war?" Big topic!!! Can we narrow it down to what the Framers thought would constitute a "just war?"
Prudence, indeed, will dictate that governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shown that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government, and to provide new guards for their future security. [emphasis added]Not for nothing did Thomas Jefferson say, "The Tree of Liberty is watered with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is its natural manure."
A question SeattleBruce: Do you think the Sons of Liberty, the original American Patriots, were "terrorists?" Or "vigilantes?"
“Do you think the Sons of Liberty, the original American Patriots, were “terrorists?” Or “vigilantes?”
Now, now - you just used the ‘t’ and the ‘v’ word after making them strictly off limits to me...lol...:)
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“The Sons of Liberty probably had the sympathies of something less than 20 percent of the total population in 1775.”
That’s way, way more than Roeder ever had. Name one local or national pro-life leader that publicly supports what Roeder did.
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“it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government, and to provide new guards for their future security.”
The very fact that these recognized colonial leaders deliberated, wrote and agitated to stir up sympathies, etc., leads us to ask about this greatly stretched analogy - what along these lines could Roeder have claimed to do?
*Was he a leader of a movement?
*As such did he stir up sympathies toward his take on the cause?
*Did he have reason to suspect that a much broader swath of the pro-life masses would join with him in his just fight, and be willing to pick up arms and lay down their lives for it?
None of this rings true with Roeder, and as I told xzins, this is where that analogy breaks down completely.
No, the Patriots weren’t ‘Ts’ or ‘Vs’ in that they were deliberately sanctioned by a wide swath of the American public, which while perhaps not a majority at first, grew to encompass a victory over the British crown.