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Mandatory 'gay' day for K-5 students (required for students & parents can't op-out)
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Posted on 05/29/2009 5:53:22 AM PDT by greatdefender

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To: csense

“Then, will you let me have my kid?”

I know you didn’t mean anything by this statement. I have seen many people who believe that the school’s authority trumps their own and that they need permission from the school to do just about anything. I have a serious problem with this attitude. I got so angry at a Walmart commercial recently. It was talking about making summer fun less expensive by shopping at Walmart. The woman in the ad said something like, the kids are ours again for the summer. I wanted to throw something at the TV. My children don’t belong to anyone but God. He gave me and my husband the responsibility of raising them and no one else! /Rant off


121 posted on 05/29/2009 12:31:26 PM PDT by christianhomeschoolmommaof3 (I home school because I have seen the village and I don't want it raising my children.)
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To: wintertime

After reading several of your homeschool responses over severeal months, I just had to comment. Wintertime, one day you are going to come out of your shell and it is going to be a beautiful thing! I think you just need a little encouragement to speak your mind! LOL!


122 posted on 05/29/2009 12:42:26 PM PDT by christianhomeschoolmommaof3 (I home school because I have seen the village and I don't want it raising my children.)
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To: christianhomeschoolmommaof3

I am confused.

Just exactly which point ( or points) is it in post #69 with which you disagree? If so, in what manner is my reasoning faulty?

Or...Are you agreeing entirely with the post?

And....What does anything in post #69 have to do with being in or out of a “shell”? ( Your cliche not mine.)


123 posted on 05/29/2009 12:51:56 PM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are NOT stupid)
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To: ConservativeWarrior
I dont think children should be used as pawns in a battle. My duty is to protect and teach my children. I won't give anyone else the privilege of educating them. I didnt decide to homeschool so I could stick it to the public education system. However, I can't imagine exposing my children to some of the garbage that goes on in public schools so that I can try to win the schools over to my way of thinking.
124 posted on 05/29/2009 12:54:06 PM PDT by christianhomeschoolmommaof3 (I home school because I have seen the village and I don't want it raising my children.)
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To: wintertime

It was just a sarcastic joke. My husband says it to me all the time when I go off on an opinionated rant. It is like saying, why don’t you tell me what you are really thinking when someone gives you a piece of their mind. I don’t disagree with anything you said. I was just enjoying it!


125 posted on 05/29/2009 12:59:52 PM PDT by christianhomeschoolmommaof3 (I home school because I have seen the village and I don't want it raising my children.)
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To: christianhomeschoolmommaof3

I see it a plainly stated truth.


126 posted on 05/29/2009 1:02:04 PM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are NOT stupid)
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To: christianhomeschoolmommaof3

Sorry...that should read:

I see post #69 as merely plainly stated truth.


127 posted on 05/29/2009 1:02:59 PM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are NOT stupid)
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To: wintertime

LOL OK! I see my humor is lost on you. It was a funny way of saying, I see you speak your mind. Next time, I will try to stick to the facts.


128 posted on 05/29/2009 1:07:09 PM PDT by christianhomeschoolmommaof3 (I home school because I have seen the village and I don't want it raising my children.)
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To: greatdefender

They can’t opt their kids out of the lesson, but they certainly can opt them out of the school.

How much did this curiculum cost? $8,000? What a total waste of money. When this “school” wants parents to pony up for extracurricular activities, school supplies, etc., the parents should remind them how much they spent on this garbage, that is if there are any parents left.

Don’t give them anything, talk to your kids after school, and tell your kids not to trust anything they say about the matter. Then work to try to get them out of there.


129 posted on 05/29/2009 1:10:07 PM PDT by goldi
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To: christianhomeschoolmommaof3

My apologies...I did miss the humor.


130 posted on 05/29/2009 1:17:06 PM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are NOT stupid)
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To: ConservativeWarrior

“We can’t surrender the public schools.”

This tends to the be kernel of the “let’s fix the public school” crowd. Homeschooling got started, here and there in the 70’s, gained legal footing in the 80’s, and grew in the 90’s, and such growth will continue.

But we are not surrendering. We can just read the writing on the wall. Like the hand of God when the king drank from the first Temple’s utensils, the warnings are there.

The liberals won long time ago. They had won when I has in school. They won the universities, they have the teacher credentialing schools, they have had academia for more than 50 years. America slept. Trying to win in THEIR sand box only guarantees that they will win.

Do you really believe that no one has tried all these years? All these 50 years, no one has tried to stop the march of liberals shoving THEIR religion down EVERYBODY else’s throat? Really?

The only hope is to collapse the system. What do you think is happening now with the US dollar? It is collapsing. The communists hope to take power and control everything. Chrysler is just the beginning.

Get the kids out NOW, before it is too late.


131 posted on 05/29/2009 1:27:09 PM PDT by TruthConquers (Delendae sunt publici scholae)
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To: wintertime

No apology necessary. Blessings!


132 posted on 05/29/2009 1:41:18 PM PDT by christianhomeschoolmommaof3 (I home school because I have seen the village and I don't want it raising my children.)
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To: TruthConquers; ConservativeWarrior
The only hope is to collapse the system.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Exactly....We must collapse the system.

Government schools need two things: Students and money. Conservatives must work to starve them of both.

How? We must do all of the following simultaneously:

1) Remove your own child and encourage your neighbor to do the same. This also starves the schools of money because in many states funding is tied to enrollment.

2) Work with others to elect representatives that will vote, “No!” to any school funding.

3) Conservatives must set up **free**, conservative, and private alternatives so that every child has the opportunity to attend a free, conservative, and private school. ( This starves the government schools of both students and money, and it also undermines political support for government schools in the voting booth.)

133 posted on 05/29/2009 1:59:46 PM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are NOT stupid)
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To: wintertime

One thing that is very important about your three-step idea: they must be done at the same time. If step one continues at its current pace, look for a German-style ban on homeschooling.

It is something that has worried me for sometime now.


134 posted on 05/29/2009 2:02:15 PM PDT by stentorian conservative (I'm tired of being Johnny B. Goode and I'm gonna start being Johnny Reb.)
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To: stentorian conservative
look for a German-style ban on homeschooling.
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I agree.

135 posted on 05/29/2009 2:05:54 PM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are NOT stupid)
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To: Morgana

WOW!!! JUST WOW!!!


136 posted on 05/29/2009 3:31:10 PM PDT by Texas4ever (God is Good!)
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To: PeanutbutterandJellybean; achilles2000; wintertime; luvEastTenn; MarkBsnr; Dr. Sivana; Tax-chick; ..
In the World War I or shortly thereafter, the Ku Klux Klan politically penetrated the North. They elected enough members of the Oregon legislature to attempt to prevent Catholic children from attending Catholic schools by the "neutral" tactic legislating a requirement that each and every child of grammar and high school age in Oregon be required to attend public schools during certain hours (9 AM to 3 PM on days when school was in session. Outside of those hours, parents were free to send their kids to any school they desired, religious or not. An order of nuns sued the state of Oregon, claiming that the statute violated freedom of worship and parental rights to decide where their children would be educated so long as minima in history, math, English and normal subjects were part of any religious or private school attended by children in question. The SCOTUS, then capable of reading and generally in possessions of copies of the US Constitution, ruled 7-2 (one of the 2 was the disgraceful excuse for a justice Oliver Wendell Holmes). The case is entitled Pierce vs. the Society of Sisters and was handed down by SCOTUS in 1927. It was so determinative and definitive a landmark case that it has not been meaningfully challenged since. This case is the Magna Carta for Catholic parents and parents generally including atheist parents to educate their children as we see fit so long as we meet reasonable minima (which are not allowed to be ideological or in line with any theological or antitheological goals of the state).

A handful of conservatively inclined political and religious parents who have a track record for textured resistance to tyranny and whose children are well-formed in their faith can run the risk of keeping their kids in gummint skewels to facilitate the resistance. People who do not want to risk their kids can act as taxpayers with that standing at hearings and in courts. Make war against gummint skewels constantly and creatively. Support homeschoolers, create quality alternative schools keeping the tuitions low and the educational output high. Compete with the gummint skewels in matters academic and beat them into the earth. Defund the gummint skewels. Start by forcing the abandonment of the zillion frills and entertainments that are used to make the kids tolerate gummint skewels (football and other sports, swimming pools, marching bands, taxpayer funded field trips, courses that promote sexualmdeviancy, school nurses who arrange abortions). No imperial building projects at taxpayer expense. Defeat the extravagant and constant school funding referenda. Taxpayer funded facilities not available to EVERY child in a community (including private and parochial and homeschooled students) should be available to no child in the community unless and until those who are not parents of the gummint skewel students are not taxed to pay for the "free public 'education.'" No child should be required to study various sexual perversions or any "health" curriculum or any matter involving religious belief (including the church of Darwin) if that child's parents say no, in their sole judgment.

137 posted on 05/29/2009 4:17:43 PM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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To: Vaquero
How you or any other parent chooses to educate his or her children is his or her business. It ought to be that each taxpayer should be able to decide whether to fund the gummint skewels. If you think that most gummint skewels are doing a good job, you need to prove that beyond your local school. Some of us will always be skeptical with good reason of claims of competence applied to public schools. Yours may be an exception but most are indoctrination centers.

I have three kids. Two never have and never will set foot in a gummint skewel. One decided that homeschooling was just not what she wanted and we did not yet have courses at her level in the parent-owned and controlled private school. Telling her that if she entered the gummint skewel as a junior, she would be graduating there and that there would be no more changes until college. She had already done extraordinarily well on SAT and ACT as a result of homeschooling and a homeschooling Co-Op in later years and she has a moral backbone of steel with knowledge of her Catholic Faith to match. She fought intellectually against errors in the classroom and against attempts at imposing atheism via the NEA curricula or reformed Christianity through another teacher. We live in a rural area where most folks are quite Godly, Catholic or not.

We very much understand the monetary cost of private school (about 1/3 of gummint skewel taxpayer-funded extravagance) and that could be covered by not requiring us to fund gummint skewels when we do not use them.

We very much understand the the involved in homeschooling. You would be amazed at how much less time it takes than you might expect and the results are sooooo much better when your kids are not picking up the antiacademic disease from their gummint skewel buddies and teachers.

Evangelicals are not the only ones who believe that Darwin was full of it. Many Catholics, including my household, agree with the Evangelicals on this. If you want to think you had apes for ancestors, fine, but don't try and cram it down our throats through taxpayer-funded indoctrination and propaganda.

By and large, the gummint skewels are the enemies of our civilization and of our Faith. Whether any individual family uses such schools is up to the parents as it should be, but let's not make believe that they are any better than they are. I would lower your property taxes for edumakashun in gummint skewels by about $4,000 to $6,000 per year.

138 posted on 05/29/2009 4:42:44 PM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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To: joejm65

“do 5 year olds have any idea what ‘gay’ means?”

They will after class.


139 posted on 05/29/2009 6:10:36 PM PDT by Gordon Greene (www.fracturedrepublic.com - Jesus said, "I am THE way, THE truth and THE life." Any questions?)
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To: Impy

Plenty do...and I want you to know that their schools are “different”, just like their Congressmen.


140 posted on 05/29/2009 8:18:19 PM PDT by achilles2000 (Shouting "fire" in a burning building is doing everyone a favor...whether they like it or not)
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