Posted on 05/29/2009 5:53:22 AM PDT by greatdefender
a highly churched, overwhelmingly conservative suburb...
That would be a tremendous gift to those children...
Re: “Darn! My kid has a sore throat.”
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.......or worse — Darn, my kid has swine flu!!! Has passed it on to to several others. Alert the media — end result? School closed down!
Re: “And everyone wonders why California is in the shape it is in”
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Exactly — this is just one more thing for us to be scandalized over, and ripped off via taxes. Anyone with an ounce of common sense knows that no matter a person’s age, tolerance and acceptance of ‘diversity’ cannot be forced.
Back in the nineties I worked for a corporate lawyer who, along with everyone else in the large company, was scheduled to attend a ‘diversity training’ seminar. When I told him his meeting date he defiantly laughed and asked, “Why would I want to attend that?” He did NOT attend, by the way, and good for him. I went to my session and fell asleep. Zzzzzzzzzzz.....
This classroom stuff is far worse — and EXPENSIVE to boot! Yes, why would anyone wonder why CA is in the shape it’s in. This is just one more glaring, disgusting example. I think we should all just refuse to pay our taxes. John Galting it is nice, but is not sending a strong enough message.
We were in a rural area, I seriously doubt that stuff is being taught, however since I’m not actually there I can’t say for sure.
I hope we live close enough (and my kids get on the stick....I’m not getting any younger!)
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Re: “The opt-out was designed by the liberals to make the child feel alienated and different.
If the school wants to offer a controversial class or speaker, they should have a sign up sheet for those parents who want their kids to participate.
They don’t because they know very few would do so.
The opt-out is another way to force compliance.”
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Ahh, but little kids don’t know enough to pay attention to who is there and who is not, or why. I recall elementary school very well and though I have no kids I recall that when polio shots first came into being my parents opted OUT for me because they were unsure of the safety of a brand new drug. NO ONE made an issue of it and it was never discussed and only much later did I realize I had been among but a few NOT getting a shot.
Later, when it came time for that little ‘film’ for the girls about their periods and such, because I had skipped a grade and a half and was physically immature, my parents opted OUT on that, too. Again, I recall no issue being made of this at all — and I saw the film the next year. Big deal.
The only people who can make kids feel alienated and different is their own parents, unless the teachers zero in on them in some way and that was not done long ago. Maybe now that most teachers are liberal scum who aren’t worth a damn it’s different; I don’t know.
If I had young kids now, I’d home school or figure out a way to pay for private school.
The problem is that it is put in the curriculum, policies and teacher training, typically in ways that don’t attract attention, e.g. teaching and policies on “safe schools”, “anti-bullying” material, “diversity programs”, etc. The entire approach is insidious and has been highly effective. In our district the ADL go tschools to use their “No Place for Hate” curriculum, which is nothing but liberal indoctrination (including with respect to homosexuality). The local school folks thought anything that was “against hate” must be fine, or they were afraid to speak up.
It’s possible things have changed (I moved from TX 5 years ago). At that time we used an abstinence based program and I was involved in the meetings to put in a new sex ed curriculum. I moved before it was fully implemented, but there was nothing about gay/lesbian issues in it.
At any rate parents MUST vocally fight against this stuff. It’s one thing to teach kids not to make fun of people and to be civil, it’s another to brainwash them, especially against their parents wishes.
I taught 2 controversial topics (for the area we lived in), Biology and Health Ed. I was always acutely aware that those kids were not mine, and their parents should make decisions on what they wanted them to believe. That was not my job. I never ran into any parent issues, altho I did have kids stand up in class and tell me they weren’t going to learn about evolution because they didn’t believe in it. I always let me speak their peace, explained that they could believe what they liked, but the State of TX was going to test them on the information and I was required to present it. That was always as far as it went.
The idea that kids need to be in a structured classroom 8 hours a day to have someone lecture at them is misleading.
But we would take that time I was at home to do science experiments, discuss new or troubling material, go to the library.
And I had to weigh the activities we did. I didn't do it all, but I think we did a great attempt at it. Kids seem pretty happy and successful right now. Son is taking college classes and doesn't seem distressed by assignments. Daughter has a part time job and a couple volunteer jobs; she starts college in the fall.
Most of the home schooled kids I’ve met are well socialized and very bright. I have a nephew who is being home schooled as well. I wish I had known of it as an option when my boys were growing up, but wasn’t until they were in high school that I heard of it, and they probably would have fought me pulling them out at that point.
Still it’s a pretty natural way to teach kids. I also like the one room school house idea—kids of different ages with a teacher hired by the parents, and accountable to them.
They talk about it, for sure. And forces a parent to discuss it before their child is ready.
It's the whole idea, and the principle of the matter. If parents want their kids to be taught in school that homosexual lifestyles are A-ok, then they can sign their kids up for it.
Who in the heck do these people think they are! If we need to give permission for those video’s in health class about sex, why in the world would a topic about homosexuality be mandatory and parents have no right to take their child out of school the day they are discussing this topic. If my child went to this school I would change schools. This is a parents responsibility to talk to their children about this. Something is very wrong here.
Re: “Oh, believe you me....kids of elementary and middle schools do wonder, (as do their friends) why they had to go to the library, instead of an assembly or a sex class.
They talk about it, for sure. And forces a parent to discuss it before their child is ready.”
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Well I guess we were “slow” back when I was in grade school in late fifties — no one questioned who was where or why —no one cared. Everything was not so ‘in your face’ as it is nowadays. I’m glad I’m old.
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