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Credit Cards Don’t Kill Credit Ratings, People Do
NRO Corner ^ | May 28, 2009 | by Jim Manzi

Posted on 05/28/2009 9:10:17 AM PDT by library user

Credit-card companies are getting a lot of grief in the blogosphere (not to mention Congress) lately. Most of these critiques are just a bunch of shaggy dog stories, but the very smart Rortybomb has an extremely numerate post in which he points out that when the interest rate on your plastic goes from 8% to 28% because you’re two days late on a payment, it’s highly unlikely that this is a pure reflection of a change in your probability of default. His analysis indicates that the way this price (i.e., interest rate) change is determined is not by the change in creditworthiness that is indicated by the new piece of information, but instead by the price sensitivity that is indicated by this new piece of information:

One model is that the credit card companies are lying to you – they think of you less as an individual to have a dynamic risk factor dynamically assigned to you, and instead as part of a portfolio to have a specific rate of return extracted from. So they have statisticians and psychologists not to create a credit risk, but instead to figure out who is likely to pay what when, and use that to keep their returns very high. Quants to study how much they can squeeze from someone – not too much, but not too little. So it is less about the awesome part of markets, the price information and the convergence and feedback, and something more feudal.

His conclusion is that credit-card companies are, morally speaking, “scumbags.”

In my experience, and very broadly speaking, he is correct about the logic by which price changes (including interest rates, fees, and other contract terms) are determined. The credit-card company is making decisions with the intent of maximizing their shareholder value, consistent with the law. In other words, this is a normal consumer market in which the guy selling you something is not looking out for you, but is trying to make money for himself. This is just like a car company, search engine provider or private university. Why is the guy who sells you a credit contract responsible if you are later unhappy about the decisions that you made?

In the specific example that Rortybomb cites, a reasonably prudent person should be aware that he or she has just signed a contract that gives the counterparty the right to increase the interest rate on a debt contract from 8% to 28%, or to the so-called penalty rate, if you miss a payment. If you have a credit card, go to your cardholder agreement and search for “penalty rate.” In any normal such agreement, you will almost certainly find a specification of the penalty rate, and the conditions under which this rate may be invoked. Expecting that your counterparty will not act to serve their own interests under a contract is the attitude of a child. If you didn’t want this deal, you shouldn’t have signed the contract.

Now, fraud is generally forbidden in these markets, and is for credit cards as well. There can get to be a gray area — what amount and type of disclosure is required and so on. Second, there is normally some kind of (speaking non-technically, and without a specific legal meaning to the term) implied warranty. Even if my purchase agreement with GM doesn’t say “this car will not explode in a ball of flame if you tap the accelerator twice and then hit the brakes,” they are subject to legal action if this occurs.

What we are really debating is where to draw the line on these two questions. That is, to what degree does the issuer have to emphasize risks, what degree of complexity should be allowed in the contract and so forth?

The Center for American Progress is typical of current sophisticated liberal thought in emphasizing this:

Credit cards are convenient, but difficult to use responsibly. Credit cardholder agreements are written in language that is above the level at which about 50 percent of U.S. adults read, and information within them is poorly organized. Moreover, issuers appear to “price” the cost of using credit cards by taking advantage of cardholders’ behavior biases. For example, credit card issuers take advantage of the fact that cardholders underestimate the probability of paying late or going over the credit limit, and punish this behavior with fees and increases in the penalty rate.

The right information at the right moment can help cardholders make better decisions. A text-messaging system by itself would not prevent issuers from continuing to price credit cards however they like, but it would orient cardholders toward the best outcomes, such as paying on time and not going over their credit limit. This approach recognizes that most individuals don’t behave like homo economicus—the “economic man” of economic textbooks who maximizes every financial decision and has perfect information to do so. Most cardholders could benefit from a “nudge” toward a more beneficial choice.

But why is it the credit-card company’s job to “nudge” you to “more beneficial choices”?

It is an unfortunate reality that there are many people who are not equipped to get along in a capitalist system. They lack some combination of (rarely) the basic intelligence and (much more frequently) the emotional maturity and self-discipline required to make their way in a world in which others are not looking out for them. Much of the rationale for traditional notions of child-raising, education, and social organization is to prepare people to live in such a world. That is, to produce actual adults. To the extent that we can count on people to act responsibly, we can have a less regulated economy that will tend to produce greater freedom and growth. But the problem of how to deal with the semi-incompetent is a real problem that will never go away entirely.

One practical effect of proposed credit-card legislation would be to make it illegal for party A to voluntarily engage in a credit contract with party B that has some specific elements that might be abused by an irresponsible person. Why should this freedom of contract be restricted for responsible people? Because the guy who lives down the street might use the same contract to drive himself into personal bankruptcy with Cheetos, beer, and big-screen TVs?

Maybe, actually. If (i) the abuse problem were severe enough, (ii) the productive uses of such credit extremely rare, and (iii) there were no other practical remedies, this could be a theoretically poor, but practically-workable, compromise. But I don’t think any of these assumptions holds. First, the vast majority of people who use credit cards don’t default, and second, they continue to voluntarily use this source of credit.

Further and most importantly, I think there is a different and better approach. I don’t think our basic strategy should be to forbid contracts that are only suitable for actual grown-ups, but instead to provide safe havens for the less competent. This could, in theory, include things like requirements for a “simple card” alternative and so on. I’ve tried to describe such an overall approach to financial regulation as “walls, not brakes.” It would not eliminate the problem of some sympathetic people getting over their heads in credit-card debt, but should reduce it, while not giving up on the dynamism enabled by freedom of contract.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: credit; creditcards; creditratings; debt; people
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To: EBH
Nope, you missed it then.

Guess again.

81 posted on 05/28/2009 3:56:24 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (the machines will break.)
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To: dfwgator

“So, if you don’t like it, don’t sign the contract.”

Well, when you grow up and are old enough to actually get a credit card you’ll understand what an ignorant and asinine answer that was.


82 posted on 05/28/2009 4:00:15 PM PDT by CodeToad (If it weren't for physics and law enforcement I'd be unstoppable!)
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To: the invisib1e hand

No, it wasn’t.

But it was just a typo.


83 posted on 05/28/2009 4:15:10 PM PDT by CottonBall
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To: Goldsborough

I appreciate your post.

There is plenty of blame to go around with the credit mess. I do agree that individuals do need to be responsible with their money, and not run up bills that they can’t pay. And I also agree with your point, that the credit card issuers have not behaved responsibily, have issued too many cards, played too fast and loose with interest rates and excessive fees.

I also agree with you that it is not a good business model to anger such a large portion of the businesses’ own customers.

Jeannine


84 posted on 05/28/2009 6:33:31 PM PDT by jeannineinsd
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To: DoughtyOne
I’m just not sure how practical his advise there was.

You and I both. I think that in a perfect world, his advice would be right on the mark, but the way credit actually works, I'm not so sure.

85 posted on 05/28/2009 9:06:07 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Obama's multi- trillion dollar agenda would be a "man caused disaster")
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

Thanks bud. Have a good one...


86 posted on 05/28/2009 10:54:31 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Obama is mentally a child of ten. Just remember that when he makes statements and issues policy.)
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To: EBH
Atlas Shrugged is a great book, but it is still fiction.

This is much more appropriate:

Milton Friedman on greed

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWsx1X8PV_A

87 posted on 05/29/2009 3:13:10 AM PDT by Niteranger68 (If you haven't purged you company of 0bama supporters, you are part of the problem.)
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To: EBH
You are confusing greed with stupidity.
88 posted on 05/29/2009 5:04:08 AM PDT by Niteranger68 (If you haven't purged you company of 0bama supporters, you are part of the problem.)
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To: the invisib1e hand
A solution is for the rest of the world to treat bankers the way they treat us: use more power than expected - the power company can up a banker's rate by 28%.

Water the grass more than average? The city can "up" the water rate for up to two years...

Late getting home for the appointment with the plumber? All contractors must charge an extra "fee" for up to a year...

And grocery stores? If a banker buys less milk than average - and causes over-stocking costs - all his food for 24 months will carry a 5% surcharge...

89 posted on 05/29/2009 5:12:48 AM PDT by GOPJ (To a community organizer, every citizen looks like a victim entitled to someone else's money-Philbin)
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To: GOPJ
over-stocking costs

Are there such things? I'd never heard of that one. Surely not even a banker would be so...so...so audacious!

90 posted on 05/29/2009 5:17:42 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand (the machines will break.)
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To: Niteranger68
Milton Friedman on greed

words matter. manslaughter is not murder. self interest is not greed.

91 posted on 05/29/2009 5:19:00 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand (the machines will break.)
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To: DoughtyOne
I figured it out recently. It could take you 30 years to pay off a loan making your minimum payment, if the interest rate is 30%. That is flat out abusive, and should be a criminal act.

The obvious solution is NOT to make the minimum payment. Pay 15% of your balance - not 2%...

Credit cards companies do take advantage of those who "can't wait" for things - but so does everyone. It's the nature of the system.

You want it "right now" it'll cost more.

92 posted on 05/29/2009 5:22:25 AM PDT by GOPJ (To a community organizer, every citizen looks like a victim entitled to someone else's money-Philbin)
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To: the invisib1e hand
I was having fun with the idea - I have no idea if there's such a thing.

:)

93 posted on 05/29/2009 5:52:22 AM PDT by GOPJ (To a community organizer, every citizen looks like a victim entitled to someone else's money-Philbin)
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To: the invisib1e hand
self interest is not greed

Well it depends on whose wealth your are referring to. If I want to keep all the wealth I earn, it's self-interest. If you think I have too much, it's greed. Greed is just a derogatory term for people who don't share their wealth.

94 posted on 05/29/2009 6:01:39 AM PDT by Niteranger68 (If you haven't purged you company of 0bama supporters, you are part of the problem.)
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To: Goldsborough

Excellent post. Thanks.


95 posted on 05/29/2009 6:04:07 AM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: Niteranger68
Greed is just a derogatory term for people who don't share their wealth.

Greed is a bit more than that, FRiend. It's contrary to the natural law. It's a moral vice. In other words, it's social cancer.

96 posted on 05/29/2009 6:04:15 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand (the machines will break.)
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To: GOPJ

IF that’s your idea of “fun...” you probably are a banker at heart. ;)


97 posted on 05/29/2009 6:06:45 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand (the machines will break.)
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To: the invisib1e hand

How do bank failures affect credit ratings for the credit rating companies?

How about credit ratings for banks and credit card companies based on exactly the same criteria for debtors?


98 posted on 05/29/2009 6:10:15 AM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (Arjuna, why have you have dropped your bow???)
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To: library user
Even if my purchase agreement with GM doesn’t say “this car will not explode in a ball of flame if you tap the accelerator twice and then hit the brakes,” they are subject to legal action if this occurs.

And you are still just as dead.

If the credit card companies want my money they will treat me as an asset, as long as I pay on time and do not default, not as a "sucker".
I will drop a particular card like a hot potato if they mistreat me.
I've done it before.

There are other fish in the sea.

99 posted on 05/29/2009 6:17:27 AM PDT by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: CodeToad

I have several credit cards thank you very much. And I don’t use them until I know I’ll be able to pay off the full balance at the end of the month, so I frankly don’t care what the interest rate is, I’m using them to get float on my money.

And there is a contract that you sign when you apply for a credit card, which basically states they can raise the rates at any time. But we all know that nobody reads it. That’s what they count on. But whose fault is that? Who puts a gun to your head and forces you to take their credit card?


100 posted on 05/29/2009 6:21:28 AM PDT by dfwgator (1996 2006 2008 - Good Things Come in Threes)
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