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How to Talk to a Liberal If You Really Want to Change His/Her Mind
The American Thinker Magazine ^ | May 26, 2009 | bookworm

Posted on 05/26/2009 10:32:53 AM PDT by lewisglad

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To: FateAmenableToChange
But I have never seen anyone actually respond to reasoned arguments about why they should abandon leftism in favor of conservatism.

I think in most cases it's a long process, made up of many disparate elements coming together over time -- rather than a "road to Damascus" type thing. My own feeling is every little bit helps, and you don't know what seed you drop may flower long after! :)

81 posted on 05/26/2009 1:14:57 PM PDT by maryz
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To: Two Kids' Dad
slowly back yourself out of their lives and lose touch with them

If you nudge them enough, they will scream and then sprint out of your life.

82 posted on 05/26/2009 1:16:43 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault ( Obama, you're off the island!)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus; All

Use the islamicly approved “taghiyeh” or lying as an art to promote and protect your mindsets (theirs, religious, yours whatever you choose)


83 posted on 05/26/2009 1:28:01 PM PDT by FARS
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
To start with are the euphemisms they use. The word “liberal” they apply to radicals, and have done so since radicals captured control of the Democrat party. And those who today are called “conservatives” by liberals, are actually moderates. In effect, “conservatives” are anyone opposed to radical change, which the radicals call “right wing”.
I have my own Newspeak-English dictionary:

objective :
reliably promoting the interests of Big Journalism. (usage: always applied to journalists who are members in good standing; never applied to anyone but a journalist)
liberal :
see "objective," except that the usage is reversed: (usage: never applied to journalists; always applied to anyone but a journalist)
progressive :
see "liberal" (usage: same as for "liberal"). moderate: see "liberal." (usage: same as for "liberal."
centrist :
see "liberal" (usage: same as for "liberal").
conservative :
rejecting the idea that journalism is a higher calling than providing food, shelter, clothing, fuel, and security; adhering to the dictum of Theodore Roosevelt that: "It is not the critic who counts . . . the credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena (usage: applies to people who - unlike those labeled liberal/progressive/moderate/centrist, cannot become "objective" by getting a job as a journalist, and probably cannot even get a job as a journalist.)(antonym:"objective")
right-wing :
see, "conservative."
But your definition of "conservative," which as it happens I independently thought of not long ago, belongs in that lexicon.
conservative :
opposed to radical change of the sort which promote the idea that assigns authority to "liberals" while leaving the responsibility with those who work to a bottom line and therefore are subject to second guessing.

84 posted on 05/26/2009 1:44:43 PM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (The conceit of journalistic objectivity is profoundly subversive of democratic principle.)
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To: lewisglad
The only way this could possibly work is if your liberal "friend" has no idea that you are or ever were sympathetic to any evil right-wing position whatsoever. If they even suspect it the steel doors that protect their minds from reality will slam shut.

Now, my friend happens to be very beauty conscious so, in a completely non-hostile way, I scanned the cover and said, "I don't know. She's (Michelle Obama) a nice looking lady, but I don't get why all the news stories keep describing her as beautiful."

Won't work. The moment you say "I don't get why all the news stories" they will immediately sense that you are questioning the veracity of liberal "popular knowledge." A better way to do it would be to push cover after cover of MO in her face and gush over her like you've never seen a woman so beautiful. If you can pick out points of style that you know your friend doesn't care for and oooh and ahhh over them that will help too.

But the best you can hope for is that your friend will then secretly and guiltily hate MO for her looks and anyone who compliments her. Most likely your friend will just hate herself for having "evil" thoughts. People who believe that unicorns crap Skittles aren't going to follow logic and facts far enough to open their minds.

85 posted on 05/26/2009 2:06:21 PM PDT by TigersEye (Cloward-Piven Strategy)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

Sympathetic doesn’t mean agreement with. We want to change their minds. We also have to keep in mind that we get farther with politeness rather than buying into their stereotype of what they think a conservative is. Think “big picture”.


86 posted on 05/26/2009 2:08:32 PM PDT by oneamericanvoice (Support freedom! Support the troops! Surrender is not an option!)
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To: maryz

Change can certainly come from within - and I applaud such transformations. But I have wasted my last breath on trying to persuade my fellow Hollywood komrads.


87 posted on 05/26/2009 2:12:29 PM PDT by karnage
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To: lewisglad
I understand the sly genius of this sort of advice. Thing is, I am way past caring what the blithering idiots think. I'd much rather insult them than persuade them. Not being embarassing morons is their own responsibility, it isn't mine to make them whole again without their noticing, or against their will. The closest I come is just not telling them anything, as past saving.
88 posted on 05/26/2009 2:27:12 PM PDT by JasonC
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To: Salamander
I simply wait until they get “mugged” and have their own epiphany...*if* they ever do

I dunno. I worked for a young liberal man 24 Yrs old. He was outside the church at which he just attended a wedding. A car drove by and shot into the crowd hitting my boss in the groin. Later I talked to him from his hospital bed and asked him why something like that could happen. He said he felt sorry for them because they were poor and obviously were angry because white middle class people were in their neighborhood. I couldn't believe that logic but now that I am older, I understand. It's a liberal disease.

89 posted on 05/26/2009 2:27:28 PM PDT by Bitsy
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

[2. Show that you are sympathetic to the liberal’s goals.
What if I’m not? ]

It is actually a great way to devastate a liberal. You say something like: I hate global warming, THOUGH it is kind of scary that most of Earth history is glacial.

Agree while disagreeing.
It throws them off guard.


90 posted on 05/26/2009 4:20:06 PM PDT by FastCoyote (I am intolerant of the intolerable.)
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To: lewisglad

It’s impossible to speak to mentally ill people who live in a parallel universe


91 posted on 05/26/2009 4:49:35 PM PDT by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: MrB

To only slightly change the subject, the ACLU is seeking to remove a memorial cross erected by WW1 vets 75 years ago.
[in CA, I think]
If they win this case, it is claimed that they intend to go after the other 140,000 such memorials, nationwide.

Do they *really* believe that tearing down any “sign” of God will make Him “go away”?

Liberalism IS a mental disorder.


92 posted on 05/26/2009 4:52:19 PM PDT by Salamander (Cursed with Second Sight.)
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To: lewisglad

bttt


93 posted on 05/26/2009 4:53:19 PM PDT by petercooper (1/20/13 - Change I can believe in.)
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To: Bitsy

Sounds like your boss was a world class idiot.


94 posted on 05/26/2009 4:54:08 PM PDT by Salamander (Cursed with Second Sight.)
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To: MrB

“The basis of the liberal worldview is the belief that man is basically good. Everything extends from that - from the concept of elites making better decisions than individuals, to the idea of a perfectible society (given enough power).”

This is why I can never be a liberal. I’ve experienced too much of human nature to believe that people are basically good.


95 posted on 05/26/2009 5:14:25 PM PDT by ZirconEncrustedTweezers (Whoever coined the term "foolproof" underestimated the ingenuity and determination of fools.)
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To: Arrowhead1952

“My ultra-liberal, Prius driving, algore adoring, man-made gorebull warming believer stopped by the house some time ago and told me my outdoor clothes line was against the HOA ordinance.

“I told her “I am trying to stop gorebull warming, so I am using the sun instead of my dryer in the house”. She left in a huffy fit. She doesn’t even LOOK at me when I am outside now.”

Next time she deigns to talk to her, tell her how her Prius’s cradle-to-grave environmental impact is worse than that of a Suburban. :)


96 posted on 05/26/2009 5:21:26 PM PDT by ZirconEncrustedTweezers (Whoever coined the term "foolproof" underestimated the ingenuity and determination of fools.)
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To: ZirconEncrustedTweezers

Next time she deigns to talk to YOU, even.


97 posted on 05/26/2009 5:25:41 PM PDT by ZirconEncrustedTweezers (Whoever coined the term "foolproof" underestimated the ingenuity and determination of fools.)
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To: real saxophonist
I think you should shake your finger in someone's face while hollering the same thing over and over as loud as you can.

That's how my former roommate, the Vice President of College Democrats, thought he would change people's minds.

How many teeth does he have left?

98 posted on 05/26/2009 6:02:20 PM PDT by kitchen (One battle rifle for each person, and a spare for each pair.)
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To: FateAmenableToChange

LOL! Very good.


99 posted on 05/26/2009 6:23:18 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (Overproduction, one of the top five worries for the American farmer.)
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To: karnage
Liberals are children.

You said a mouthful there.

100 posted on 05/26/2009 6:30:50 PM PDT by matt1234
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