Posted on 05/24/2009 9:18:49 AM PDT by rabscuttle385
That's why I will never understand why so many on this forum flocked to Romney after the primary. Even people like myself that could tolerate the idea of Romney as the nominee in 2008 (though not endorsing his candidacy), soured on the idea on the idea after seeing how terrible he did in the primaries after far outspending everyone else and running a slick, super polished campaign. On this forum it was the opposite. Seriously, the stampede was so great that the "Romney for veep" posts were outnumbering any other politician for veep by about 10-to-1. Someone should conduct a study about where all the Romneybots came from. During the primary it was "ANYONE but Rudy McRomney!" after the primary, it was "NOBODY but Rudy McRomney!" on FreeRepublic. It felt like The Twilight Zone for a while here.
Kudos to fieldmarshaldj for sounding the alarm about Romney. I didn't see why he was so outspoken in his warnings during the primary, since Romney didn't have many supporters here, but I'm glad did did once I realized so many conservative Ann Coulter types had been affected by Romneyitis Yes, the Romneybots had a tendency to smear anyone who didn't like him as a nasty, anti-Mormon bigot (and continually insisted the only people who don't like Romney are "Evangelicals" and "Huckabee supporters"), but there were many pulling the same tactics during the primary. Personally I don't think the Romney crowd showed their true colors until they got really bitter and demanded Romney in 2012 because their guy didn't end up on the ticket.
The idea of BOTH candidates on the ticket being wobbly, unprincipled Republicans would have been a disaster. Just imagine what would have happened if a "President McCain" was thinking of going "maverick" against a conservative piece of legislation on his desk because the mainstream media was attacking it 24/7 and turned the general public against it. McCain then had his weekly luncheon with "Vice President Romney" to weigh in on the matter. We all know what Romney's advice would be. I breathed a huge sigh of relief when Palin was chosen and not Romney.
I'm totally with Jim Robinson in vehemently opposing another Romney run. I think he did the right thing too, in 2007, when he took a lot of heating for "banning" the Giuliani activists from FreeRepublic (JimRob didn't actually purge the forum of anyone who publicly announced they were for Giuliani, he just took the drastic step of zotting all the Rudybots here that were bullying other posters, attacking conservative principles, and screaming only RINOs can win in this country, therefore the GOP has to gut its values and embrace a left-wing socialist agenda). I agree with JimRob that Rudy was the worst candidate, and would have been more damaging than a McCain nomination. The GOP would have moved considerably left to make Rudy the face of "Republicanism" in 2008, and I think even now we'd be stuck with the remnant of several Rudyites operating the party at a federal level. Rudy would do to the GOP nationally what Arnie did it to it in California.
I personally don't want to see any of the "also-rans" from the 2008 primary try again in 2012. (though Duncan Hunter is welcome to consider a presidential bid again if he ever gets elected to statewide office). In the meantime we need some rising stars in 2012 like Palin and Sanford, so we can forget about the awful mess that 2008 turned out to be.
NO ROMNEY!
I have to admit, I was taken with Romney for a short time. He has presence and likeability. He was very successful in the private sector, and as Governor of Massachusetts, he did have some accomplishments, like getting the state out of debt without raising taxes. In fact, I was hoping for a Thompson/Romney ticket. But it turned out that Romney was a plastic political chameleon. I don’t think he’s evil, but if you look at his record and speeches, it’s obvious that he stands for nothing and his platform has always been telling people what he thinks they want to hear. Maybe this is a good approach for a CEO, but a President has to have vision, and Romney has none of that.
Ann Coulter is still shilling for Romney. Conservative punditry as a whole is under his spell.
Rudy, being ‘pro choice’ (he was considering whether or not to oppose partial birth abortion in 2000 in order to try and get the Conservative party nomination) would have been a disaster. He straight up flip flopped on gun control, throw in his gay friendly history.....good thing his campaign strategy was inept. The social conservative base would have been up in arms. We would have had a third party conservative candidate spring up.
And like Romney and McCain he obviously sports a massive ego. And I haven;t forgotten he endorsed Cuomo, a naked political decision on his part.
Now he’s bailing on running for Governor.
He should run for Mayor again.
Romneybots love to bring up Coulter, whom I enjoy and feel speaks well most of the time for Conservative ideas. but it does not make her perfect or immune from influence. A case in point was Sean Hannity, another noted Conservative voice. If we remember he was very strong on Rudy and had him on more than a few times.
Even the strongest voices can be wrong.
If Coulter is still shilling for Slick Willard, it gravely calls into question her judgment and intellectual integrity.
I have a feeling a lot of his support was based on he “stated positions” and his supposed “he looks good” electability.
Vetting Mitt takes effort, he has done a fairly good job reinventing himself, Lord knows he has done it enough to get it perfect after all. I cannot fault busy people, desperate for a winner and caught up in all the hoopla that was the 2008 race shortcutting or taking things at face value.
But the knowledge is more available now than ever plus we have is performance in 2008 which should also count against him. Millions of bucks and can't beat McCain? Sheesh...
The other day I saw on her on Bill O’Reilly, I think it was a recent interview.
He asked if she she would support Palin for President and paraphrasing she said “absolutely or another conservative candidate like Mitt Romney”.
Speaking of who can be wrong...so can you.
Total derangement.
Yes, I can be.
But in this case I am not.
The love is deep.
Sadly that is where we are right now until a clear leader who both walks the walk and talks the talk with a history to back it rises. Those that are in the public eye speaking for and as conservatives cannot publicly admit we have issues finding leadership, nor should they really since the masses would not know the difference. Even Mitt is an all star to the uninformed, and he looks damn good on paper (or the web, whatever), at least until one discovers his glorious rhetoric does not match his record.
Our "luminaries" are playing the hand dealt right now, basically selling everything in the stable to give the appearance we have a full house of future leaders.
It is up to us to thin the heard and promote those, both new and old, who really do represent us and have a proven track record of doing so for the long haul and not as a matter of political expediency or fashion. Palin is the first of these, there will be others. Sadly the old guard will have the hardest time letting go.
Desperation is one thing from people that DON’T know, but Coulter cannot possibly NOT know, so she’s either lying to us or lying to herself. Neither of those make her look good, respectable, or intelligent, and I’m shocked she would be so cavalier to toss all her years of yeoman work “for the cause” out the window for this liberal agent working for the Democrat cause. She has become like the women she lampooned in the ‘90s worshipping at the crotch of Bubba Clintoon. Odious hypocrite.
We can establish one thing with absolute certainty, we know it is not his sterling record as a Conservative. We have way to much evidence for them to be “right” and the rank and file Conservatives to be "wrong". There is another motivation for each of the individuals, be it ignorance or what have you.
And the movie is worth watching if only for the scene you depict in the pic, when Farley demonstrates the disaster of not having the right brake pads ... and also the one of Rob Lowe getting off the bus, chugging down the last of a carton of milk, and tossing the empty into a passing baby carriage!
Sorry ... back on topic ... Romney is a faux conservative who needs to be rejected from GOP leadership ASAP.
Amen.
To both subjects...
=> Nominating Mitt would be the worst thing
Republicans could do - unless they really
want to become a minority party.
=> He is a DEMONSTRATED RINO. Why not just
become democrats and get it over with.
=> 20-25% of the population of the USA
CONSISTENTLY says they would NOT vote
for a mormon for POTUS. Why start out
with losing a fourth of the vote?
If Mitt is nominated, I’ll be fishing that
day. Looking at worms would be a far better
day’s activity...
ampu
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