[rabscuttle385]

He's right. The federal war on drugs is a failure.

[rabscuttle385]

ping!

[AnalogReigns]

the proof is that prices keep getting lower....meaning every year the supply is greater.....

[Crim]

And he would nuke mecca....he’s got my vote...

[Dapper 26]

So is the war on poverty. What do we do about that? While we’re at it, Harry Reid says the War in Iraq is LOST. What are we doing still there? In addition, we no longer fight “terrorists” so why are we still in the mid-east?
Point is, every time some dumb-assed politician speaks, we don’t have to consider what he says as truthful.

[EternalVigilance]

I guess this means Tancredo is angling for the Libertarian nomination in ‘12.

[umgud]

I’ll guess this may be a long & heated thread.

[Mark]

No taxes involved, I’m sure.

[PGalt]

The drug war is lost for losers (on drugs). Sorry Tom. I don’t buy it.

[upsdriver]

Does Tancredo want to legalize illegal aliens as well? Just as strong a case could be made we’ve lost that war too.

[roses of sharon]

Good grief....Colorado Republicans have nothing better to work on?

Of course...Republicans are more comfortable in the minority.

[TigersEye]

Tancredo’s right again. We, here in CO, need to make him a Senator.

[familyop]

Let’s see. He avoided the draft, was a public school teacher and wants to legalize meth, pot and heroine. No-go!

[GeronL]

really? is this his new big issue?? I thought the big issue was that we have a looter government attempting to bankrupt the nation

[CharlesWayneCT]

The United States has not succeeded in eliminating drugs, but that in itself doesn’t mean we should give up.

You have to have a positive reason why drugs should not be a concern for the government, not just a “well, we can’t control it, so why bother”. After all, such an argument would prevent us from ever stopping abortion. And we’ve made shoplifting illegal for decades and people still shoplift.

If more people would use drugs if we stopped trying to fight it, that would mean we didn’t “lose”, we simply couldn’t win.

[RC one]

I can see legalizing pot and maybe a few other substances and maybe decriminalizing a few others. I have a hard time getting on board with legalizing meth, coke, heroin, etc. Pot doesn’t turn people into slaves like coke, meth, and heroin.

[PizzaDriver]

Allowing each of the different States to experiment in Unique legalization plans could yield positive results.

Just off the top of my head, I'd like to see one State try allowing ONLY Walgreen's to sell “single Day, One user” supplies; the buyer MUST pay with “plastic”. Each transaction would go into Walgreen's’ mainframe & lockout that buyer {from further buys] for 24 hours.

Another could try “only Home Delivery & only paid with Plastic”; that delivery MUST be to the Card Holder's “address of record”[the valid Billing Address]. Each transaction would be automatically reported to the Feds & Local Law Enforcement.

Yup, there are untried ways to limit Drug Abuse, and cripple the illegal drug profiteers.

[Cedar]

Oh, great. A nation of candle-watchers. Just what we need.

[Cheap_Hessian]

Libertarians will never get me to go long with legalizing drugs until they successfully get rid of the social welfare state. All this will do is promote more bad behavior and allow a bunch pot smokers to do nothing other than live on taxpayer money. Put in personal responsibility into our system first where stupid people fail, and then and only then will I even entertain the idea.

[DoughtyOne]

I believe there are good arguments to make drugs legal.  I also believe there are good arguments not to.  I come down on the big NOT TO.

Why do some poeple want to legalize drugs?  Well, there seems to be two main reasons.

1. Some people believe adults should be able to do anything they please as long as they are not hurting others.
2. Those same people believe that by legalizing drugs, the black market will be eliminated and all problems with law enforcement will simply evaporate.

We have seen the down side of legalizing alcohol.  Yes, there are down sides.

Children gain access to alcohol.  Adults cannot control themselves, and drink alcohol and drive.  Others become alcoholics and destroy the family unit.  The work force is negative impacted.  Lives are ruined.  Society is negative impacted.

We can kid ourselves about how drugs are actually better than alcohol.  In some ways they may be.  In other ways they are much worse.  We will have the same problems with drugs that we now have with alcohol, but the legalization of drugs will spread the problems exponentially.  There will always be a class of people who wish to drink alcohol.  Others won't be tempted by alcohol.  But if you place all the drugs that people want to abuse within their reach, you will have people who want to abuse, morphine, Demerol, Fentanyl... and on and on.  Where would it end?  There would be forty new products if not more, that people would want to abuse.  There would be segments of followers for each one of them.  There would be abusers of each one of them.  And there would be children getting ahold of each one of them.

Ah yes, children.  It's my assumption that those who wish to legalize drugs would have the common sense to set an age limit under which you could not use these drugs legally.  Okay, since those drugs are now on the street, what happens immediately?  That's right, a black market pops up to make sure kids can now not only get access to alcohol as they have in the past, but now they can have access to all the other drugs too for a price.  So have you eliminated the problems with law enforcement by legalizing all the drugs?  No.  You'll still have the cops knocking down doors to stop pushers who supply kids.  And folks, these kids have expendable incomes, and there will be plenty of money to be made.

The only way to stop the black market problem would be to let any human that wanted to, have access to any drug they wanted.  Then you've got grade school kids shooting up Heroin if they want.  Look, I'm not saying all those who push for legalization will want this, even though I'm sure some would.  I still think this is a stark reality.  You can't stop the abuses of law enforcement unless you open the flood gates to everyone.

Well, if we're going to do that, we might just as well allow kids to have sex with adults at any age too.  What's the difference?  If we're going to allow them to F up their brains duirng the formative years, we might just as well let them trash the physical as well.

The truth is, even it if it's not the goal, the black market profiteers will have access to any drug they want under legalization.  Some folks will go in to get the drugs, and sell them to the profiteers.  So kids will have easy access to many narcotics.

We have enough problems today.  Do we really need to expand them exponentially?

I don't think so.

I know a lot of you will disagree with me.  I've had this discussion a number of times before.  I'm not changing my mind, and I know you aren't.  I just wanted to put some food for thought out there.

I would encourage others to make their own statements like I have.

I don't have the time to debate five to ten of you at the same time like I have a number of times in the past.

[x_plus_one]

Abandoning all pretense of a war on drugs is like opening the doors of the alamo to santa ana. othing good can come of it...and it could only be the plan of wishful thinkers who are exhausted and confused.