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We The People Versus Our Lawless Elected Officials
self ^ | May 21, 2009 | Uncle Sham

Posted on 05/21/2009 5:57:28 AM PDT by Uncle Sham

We the People have a serious problem facing us. We have an out of control government hell-bent on further enslaving us at breakneck speed. This government displays a piece of paper every now and then called the Constitution, mostly at election time in an effort to comfort us into thinking that somehow it is being obeyed. We know differently, don't we?

We have a person pretending to be President who has yet to prove to me or to anyone else for that matter that he is actually eligible to serve under the provisions of Article two of the Constitution. Our elected officials, as you will see below, are REQUIRED to ensure that he is in fact eligible. It is our job as citizens to put the heat on them (our elected officials) to do their primary job as defined in the Constituion, to "support it". We have the legal case to do this and I'm going to post this so that EVERYONE who thinks we are powerless to do something about this understands how best to go about it. We need to find the legal remedy enabling us to charge our representatives with disobeying their oaths of office and start removing them one by one. Here is the case.

Exhibit A, The Twentieth Amendment, Section 3 reads as follows:

" ”3. If, at the time fixed for the beginning of the term of the President, the President elect shall have died, the Vice President elect shall become President. If a President shall not have been chosen before the time fixed for the beginning of his term, or if the President elect shall have failed to qualify, then the Vice President elect shall act as President until a President shall have qualified; and the Congress may by law provide for the case wherein neither a President elect nor a Vice President electshall have qualified, declaring who shall then act as President, or the manner in which one who is to act shall be selected, and such person shall act accordingly until a President or Vice President shall have qualified.

Exhibit B U. S. Code, CITE: 3USC19

TITLE 3--THE PRESIDENT, CHAPTER 1- PRESIDENTIAL ELECTIONS AND VACANCIES

Sec. 19. Vacancy in offices of both President and Vice President; officers eligible to act

”(a)(1) If, by reason of death, resignation, removal from office, inability, or failure to qualify, there is neither a President nor Vice President to discharge the powers and duties of the office of President, then the Speaker of the House of Representatives shall, upon his resignation as Speaker and as Representative in Congress, act as President. “

Exhibit C: U. S. Constitution, Article Six Oath of Office for elected officials:

” The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States.”

Exhibit D: The Electoral Vote Counting Act of 1877:

The process currently provides that someone “challenge” the electoral votes during a short, specified time frame while the Electoral College votes are opened and tabulated. This process does not cover challenges to "eligibility" qualifications. In fact, if this act pretends to do so in the manner in which it prescribes, it is unconstitutional. Any act of this sort that does not require that qualifications be presented by the President elect serves to undercut the provisions in the Constitution itself. No act that does not support the Constitution is constitutional. In order to change the requirements of the Twentieth amendment, one would need to pass another amendment. An “Act” doesn’t cut the mustard.

The portion in bold stating “or if the President elect shall have failed to qualify” in section three is particularly interesting in that it plainly seems to infer that a “qualification” of some sort must be made in order to serve as President. Certainly, one cannot argue that it does not require a qualification process for one to “qualify”. To infer that the lack of a “specified” qualification process means that stated eligibility “qualifications” for the office of president can be ignored is fallacious. The wording of this passage in the twentieth amendment clearly infers that a qualification is required, regardless of how this is done.

There is only one set of qualifications listed anywhere in the Constitution that are not health related and they are listed in Article two, section one.

No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.”

To satisfy meeting the requirement of the twentieth amendment to “qualify”, a president elect must present evidence that he meets it’s requirements for eligibility to serve. This means that a proper birth certificate HAD to be presented by the president elect in order to serve as president. If this was done, where is that certificate and to whom was it presented? If this was done, why would we not have the right to verify and inspect it under the freedom of information act?

If it was NOT done, then under the provisions of the twentieth amendment, Barrack Obama has “failed to qualify” and should not be serving as president of the United States of America.

Based upon the above, I conclude that:

1. We currently have a vacancy at President because no one has yet “qualified” as required in the Twentieth amendment. The terms "The President elect shall have failed to qualify" clearly places this burden upon the President elect and not on someone raising their hand in objection.

2. Anyone serving in Congress (see “Congress” in bold in Exhibit A), or anyone who is currently serving under the oath of office in Article six has "standing" and can DEMAND that their oaths be met by receiving proper “qualifying” documentation from Mr. Obama. This charade at the time of counting the Electoral College votes does not limit their ability to do so at any time they so choose. The very fact that they are duty-bound by oath to "support" the Constitution REQUIRES them to respond to any and all attacks against it. No judge can deny any of them the standing to do so. It would ask them to break the law in their effort to enforce the law.

3. We need to start pressing legal charges against all of our local representatives and senators covered by the oath of office in Article six for disobeying their oaths to support the Constitution as it pertains to the language of section three of the Twentieth amendment. Put PRESSURE on them to represent the document that gives them their authority in the first place. We are looking into how best to do this down here. We all should be looking into this approach. NOW.


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KEYWORDS: akaobama; birth; birthcertificate; certificate; certifigate; constitution; obama; usurper
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To: Polarik
McCain showed his original birth certificate to the Senate, and they voted to verify his NBC status, even though McCain is stll technically not an NBC. However, both of his parents were US citizens who were stationed abroad in the service of this country, and McCain made no effort, whatsoever, to hide any of his documentation.

That is exactly right. McCain did so willingly. Obama will not. And that is the crux of the matter. HE WILL NOT and no one can make him. I HATE this soooo much.

61 posted on 05/26/2009 1:04:48 PM PDT by MestaMachine (Will global warming make hell hotter? Or is hell freezing over? That is the ???)
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To: Polarik
I disagree. Had a federal investigation been launched into his Campaign's involvement in creating and distributing a forged COLB, Obama's silence would not protect him. Withholding information from a federal or grand jury investigation is itself a crime. Just ask Bubba.

No one at "Justice" wanted a fed investigation of Obama. No one at the highest levels of our governement wants a fed investigation.
Ask BUBBA, indeed.

62 posted on 05/26/2009 1:13:28 PM PDT by MestaMachine (Will global warming make hell hotter? Or is hell freezing over? That is the ???)
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To: TexasRepublic

Bookmark


63 posted on 05/26/2009 1:23:06 PM PDT by antisocial (Texas SCV - Deo Vindice)
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To: OafOfOffice

Here is a good place to present the ideas listed above:
http://www.libertyaction.org/305/petition.asp?PID=21008407&NID=1


64 posted on 05/26/2009 1:40:00 PM PDT by antisocial (Texas SCV - Deo Vindice)
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To: Polarik

I believe that Obama’s lawyers made reference to the fact that Obama had posted his birth certificate on his campaign website in one or more of their legal responses to the various eligibility lawsuits. If that is so, then it directly connects Obama to the fraud. He cannot use that claim as a legal defense and also claim that he had no knowledge of it. The two are mutually exclusive. He was advised by legal counsel on the issue and consented to its inclusion in his legal defense.

I believe the references were made in footnotes and were not submitted as direct evidence but I also believe that point may be irrelevant.


65 posted on 05/26/2009 2:38:42 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan
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To: Beckwith

You make an incorrect assumption. Standing was an issue in that case. Hollander could not demonstrate damages caused to him through the intentional and specific actions of John McCain.


66 posted on 05/26/2009 2:53:13 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan
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To: MestaMachine
I THINK doesn't get it. A PROVEN, ACTUAL crime has got to be committed first or a policeman cannot act, and it must be pursued as a crime by criminal investigation.

"I think" is enough to start an investigation, if there are credible reasons that "I think", a crime has been committed.

Proving the crime has been committed is a job for prosecutors, not policemen. Policemen can of course help the prosecutor by conducting investigations, serving warrents to obtain evidence, and so forth.

67 posted on 05/26/2009 3:40:30 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: katiekins1

Your link was excellent! Thanks for posting it.


68 posted on 05/26/2009 4:44:54 PM PDT by Uncle Sham
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To: Uncle Sham

You are very welcome.


69 posted on 05/26/2009 5:17:42 PM PDT by katiekins1 (Obama=DickTater N Chief)
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To: OafOfOffice

Why would these non profits not look into this? The other problem is someone has to have asked already.

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You are right on with this one. Don’t they have an ACLU for us? All of a sudden, all these so called rights activists have disappeared into the woodwork. The only ones left are us teabaggers!

A few weeks ago, I think it was something I read by the “Oath Keepers”, saying that they had all the evidence needed for the 10 amendment violations, aside from the breaches in the other amendments. They had a big name Constitutional Attorney who took the class action case. The higher courts told them they had no case to pursue.

It turned my stomach. Do we have no outlet?

I’m going to view the links offered & see what I can find.

Thanks OOO


70 posted on 05/26/2009 6:47:16 PM PDT by Atom Smasher
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To: Atom Smasher

Lots of good info in this thread so far. Lets hope a few more chime in with information concerning what type of legal actions we can take against our elected officials for abandoning their duties.


71 posted on 05/26/2009 7:22:47 PM PDT by Uncle Sham
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To: Uncle Sham

Yes I agree. I’m viewing all the links that people have provided. I just can’t believe the mass corruption. I’m still up for calling in another country to help us with our tyrannical govt.


72 posted on 05/26/2009 7:32:26 PM PDT by Atom Smasher
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To: Atom Smasher

“I’m still up for calling in another country to help us with our tyrannical govt.”

Hay — at this point — I’m up for whatever works.

Maybe the Canadian ‘Mounties’ can rescue us!

http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/index-eng.htm

STE=Q


73 posted on 05/26/2009 8:11:57 PM PDT by STE=Q
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To: STE=Q

I’ll take anybody at this point, that is of course except other radicals! Thanks for the agreement, I was worried the thread might get pulled!


74 posted on 05/26/2009 8:15:11 PM PDT by Atom Smasher
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To: El Gato
"I think" is enough to start an investigation, if there are credible reasons that "I think", a crime has been committed.

I don't want to get bogged down on this. One of my examples was the attempted bombing in New York.
I am in full agreement that given enough credible evidence, an investigation can ensue. But let's turn that around.
An informant alerted law enforcement that these guys had the intent to commit a crime. Had law enforcement decided these guys were full of it, they could just as easily have walked away and if the crime then happened, we would be wringing our hands and asking why no one investigated and why nothing was done to stop them...which was exactly what happened on 9/11.
All the credible evidence in the world was at their fingertips, but they blew it...because Bill Clinton, via Jamie Gorelic, made it next to impossible for law enforcement or anyone else to complete enough of a proper investigation to stop it.
That seems to be what is happening now. Aside from the COLB, there is enough wrongdoing on the part of Barack Obama to impeach him. NO ONE will even try it. We all see the law being flaunted in America's face every damn day.
Nancy Pelosi should have been brought up on charges for conspiring with the PKK to stop our military from being resupplied though Turkey. It was blatant treason. BUT NO ONE DID ANYTHING.
There are example after example of lawlessness throughout our government that are so blatant, half of them should be in jail and the other half should face a firing squad.
Geithner was confirmed in spite of his flagrant tax cheating. Sotomayer will be confirmed in spite of her flagrant disregard of the Constitution.
There is no one looking out for us inside the government. It is like another world that they have created and live in with no regard for the consequences to We the People. It is surreal to watch this happen in front of our eyes. We see it, we feel it. And yet it goes on and on like some insane nightmare we can't seem to wake up from. We are all caught up in it.
Our military is being deliberately weakened and their brainwashing began years ago. They train to "respect" cultures unworthy of respect.
WE are brainwashed into believing that the OFFICE of the Presidency deserves our respect, and by extension, the person who occupies it. The OFFICE is a Constitutional construct. It isn't a building or a man. If we respect the OFFICE, we had better go to the mattresses to save it because the MAN is unworthy of our respect and I don't care what name he goes by.
I have asked people I trust how, in the midst of all this insanity, do we manage to stay sane? And if we are sane, how do we combat this insanity? Because that is what it is.
Then I am reminded that before the world was plunged headfirst into WWII, the same conditions existed on the ground and around the world. Mad leaders with heavy propaganda machines like the one that is building here. Entire populations yearning for a saviour. The people under control ravaging those who resisted. NONE of it happened overnight. NONE of it was under cover of darkness. The world saw it and did nothing.
Nothing we do is going to change what has become our reality as long as we depend on the insane to do anything sane. There has got to be a plan and we have to prepare ourselves for the absolute worst we can imagine because anything we can imagine can happen while we are waiting for an answer that never comes.
This government isn't ours anymore. We need to shut it down and reset it big time.
Protests need to be more than symbolic. We have to make it so difficult for them to govern that they are thrown off stride. Technology has overtaken us. This megamachine is moving forward at a pace too quickly to sit around trying to figure out which legal maneuver we have at our disposal to defeat it. The only way to stop a machine is to pull the plug or disable it.
The legal remedy is written in the Constitution. We are facing TYRANNY.
I am going to end this because I feel like I am chasing my tail and afraid, yes, afraid, that I will say more than I should.
I have a 17 month old baby girl. THAT counts. FREEDOM counts. HERS is paramount to mine. And that's IT!!!

75 posted on 05/27/2009 2:50:08 AM PDT by MestaMachine (Will global warming make hell hotter? Or is hell freezing over? That is the ???)
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To: BuckeyeTexan
You make an incorrect assumption. Standing was an issue in that case. Hollander could not demonstrate damages caused to him through the intentional and specific actions of John McCain.

Was the case heard by a judge?
76 posted on 05/27/2009 4:06:39 AM PDT by Beckwith (A "natural born citizen" -- two American citizen parents and born in the USA.)
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To: Atom Smasher
How about PUBLICLY offering a huge donation to anyone who currently insist that Obama is legit, say several thousand dollars to your local congressman, if he steps forth with PROOF of legitimacy? This would do nicely with FULL-PAGE ads. Heck, you could offer this "reward" to anyone who can step forth with proof that this issue has been heard on the merits and decided legally in a court of law. Make these bastards put their mouth where our money is. Since they can't do it, we lose nothing.

they lose CREDIBILITY.

77 posted on 05/27/2009 7:22:04 PM PDT by Uncle Sham
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To: Uncle Sham

Publicly is the key! This way your rep has to do it or he/she loses face. Better yet, publicly tell the rep to produce it or he/she will be voted out. This way the entire state is in on it.

But offering money would probably make people a little more serious about it.

I don’t know Uncle Sham, but we need to do something!


78 posted on 05/27/2009 8:03:31 PM PDT by Atom Smasher
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To: antisocial

Bump


79 posted on 05/29/2009 5:03:52 PM PDT by Uncle Sham
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To: mrmeangenes

Here’s the info you are looking for.


80 posted on 05/29/2009 5:12:36 PM PDT by Uncle Sham
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