Posted on 05/20/2009 11:10:32 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
BELGRADE (AFP) — Serb ultra-nationalist lawmakers held up insulting signs in parliament Wednesday as US Vice President Joe Biden, considered a strong backer of Kosovo independence, arrived in Belgrade.
"Biden, you Nazi scum, go home," said the posters brandished by opposition Radical Party deputies during the live national broadcast of a parliament sitting which coincided with the start of Biden's visit.
The Radicals, who occupy around a fifth of places in the 250-seat assembly, then pasted the signs which also labelled Biden a "fascist" on a notice board and hallway.
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You are clearly an advocate for the side that started the balkan war. And like i said, one things for sure, if someone hates Serbia, Loves Kosovo, has a Nazi grandpa from Croatia, etc ad nauseum,,,then there are no words to sway them. They are immune to reason.
I just know that Croats in Nazi helmets shot at our boys flying over in WWII, Serbs rescued them for us. And it aint crazy to call Biden a Nazi.
BTW,, google that scene in “Life of Brian”, where all the different fronts of the Roman resistance meet in a basement, argue, and kill each other. About as stupid as what comes out of the Balkans every generation or so.
So several nations cobbled together is Communist? You mean like Wales, England, Scotland, and Northern Ireland?
And look around the USA, we aint exactly homogeneous here.
They were never communist in the slightest, until conquered by the USSR. And they werent the best communists around from the USSRs point of view either.
In this new globalist age(barf), they can do it too!
Thank God the USA escaped from British tyranny! Thank God they weren’t able to crush our freedom, our sovereignty and our independence! I really don’t care what a tyrant calls himself, they’re all the same to me!
Not really an intelligent way of discussing any issue, is it.
It has frequently been alleged that I have contended that any movement in the direction of socialism is bound to lead to totalitarianism. Even though this danger exists, this is not what the book says. What it contains is a warning that unless we mend the principles of our policy, some very unpleasant consequences will follow which most of those who advocate these policies do not want.
Granted, it's been a couple of years since I read Hayek's work, but my recollection of what the central thrust of his work was about isn't supportive of your contention that fascism and socialism are the same thing. In light of Hayek's own words, I doubt he'd agree with you either.
Words have meaning. Fascism and socialism are two different words because they have different definitions. Attempting to portray them as synonyms simply demonstrates a lack of either understanding, or the entry of Godwin's Law into a discussion of socialism.
And you clearly are trying to reinforce the impression that you don't know the first thing about the subject and are someone to talk to if one merely wants to waste their time.
Congratulations, you've succeeded.
Socialism, marxism, communism, fascism are all STATIST. There is no single definition of fascism. One thing for certain, it is just as oppsosite from limited government, constitutional republicanism as is socialism or communism. They are all interrelated. And all left wing constructs.
I’ll just second what you said. Yes, there are only subtle differences between all the various forms of leftist political ideologies. They are all about power in the hands of the state and the friends of the state.
I don't disagree with that.
But like the Serbs, Croats, and Bosniaks are all Slavs, it wouldn't be either honest (or, in this example, conducive to one's health in the wrong company) to attempt to portray them as being one and the same.
Alas, as the last 8 years demonstrate, neither American political party seems very interested, when push comes to shove, about limited government or the proper functioning of a constitutional republic.
And as far as getting back to the original subject, if we, like the Serbian Radicals, are now going to simply call our opponents random names rather than honestly discuss the shortcomings of the actual policies they espouse, I fear we'll be out in the wilderness for some time.
There is much written about how the Obama Administration employing the same tactics as the Fabian Socialists. One book, The Road Ahead, written by John T. Flynn, describes Fabian Socialism as "creeping revolution" overtaking the Constitutional system handed to us by our forefathers. Flynn wrote about the fine line between the Fabian Socialist and Fascism:
". . . the line between Fascism and Fabian Socialism is very thin. Fabian Socialism is the dream. Fascism is Fabian Socialism plus the inevitable dictator."
The warnings about this transformational strategy have run throughout history and are well described in numerous writings. In 1942, Stuart Chase, in his book The Road We Are Traveling spelled out the goals of Fabian Socialism. It is incredible that these goals were shown so long ago and the people of this free country have sat on their butts while it has come to 2009 America with their front man Zer0:
1. Strong, centralized government.
2. Powerful Executive at the expense of Congress and the Judicial.
3. Government controlled banking, credit and securities exchange.
4. Government control over employment.
5. Unemployment insurance, old age pensions.
6. Universal medical care, food and housing programs.
7. Access to unlimited government borrowing.
8. A managed monetary system.
9. Government control over foreign trade.
10. Government control over natural energy sources, transportation and agricultural production.
11. Government regulation of labor.
12. Youth camps devoted to health discipline, community service and ideological teaching consistent with those of the authorities.
13. Heavy progressive taxation.
This once proud nation will be a fascist state by 2010 if we let confusion about the nature of this enemy take our freedom away. I suggest that everyone study up, dissect this virus and unite with all our might to defeat it.
The SRS (Serbian Radical Party -Seselj), SPS (Socialist Party of Serbia - Nikolic), and the JUL (Yugoslav United Left - Mira Markovic) have often been viewed as a "red-brown" coalition.
The "brown" part would be the SPS-JUL.
You ask easy questions.
I wish they could keep him over there someplace.
Biden is such a sleaze clown. He is to Nobama what Goering was to Hitler.
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