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To: FourtySeven

“What I SHOULD have said was, “I said that this DIRECTLY ANSWERS the long-standing question anti-evolutionists always throw out, ‘Where are the transition fossils’? Now I suppose we could debate whether or not this truly is a “transition fossil” until Christ returns. I’m not interested in that.”

Not interested in the salient point? OK.

“To be quite blunt, the science debated here is mostly shoddy, incomplete, and cherry picked. The so called “Creation Institute” is a perfect example of such work.”

I agree...shoddy on both sides, I maintain, this exciting new find...as the Cold Fusion discovery and Global Warming (now known as “Climate Change”) have proven to be...I’ll go away now. Thanks.


80 posted on 05/20/2009 10:48:56 AM PDT by jessduntno (July 4th, 2009. Washington DC. Gadsden Flags. Be There.)
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To: jessduntno; annalex; Darwins Revenge
Not interested in the salient point? OK.

Not interested in debating what "is" and what "is not" a transition fossil? You bet I'm not. Countless times on countless "crevo" threads I've seen it debated, with no fruit to show for it. Why? I think this portion of what Darwins Revenge posted on another thread is a good indication of the problem.

Actually, paleontologists know of many detailed examples of fossils intermediate in form between various taxonomic groups. One of the most famous fossils of all time is Archaeopteryx, which combines feathers and skeletal structures peculiar to birds with features of dinosaurs. A flock’s worth of other feathered fossil species, some more avian and some less, has also been found. A sequence of fossils spans the evolution of modern horses from the tiny Eohippus. Whales had four-legged ancestors that walked on land, and creatures known as Ambulocetus and Rodhocetus helped to make that transition [see “The Mammals That Conquered the Seas,” by Kate Wong; Scientific American, May]. Fossil seashells trace the evolution of various mollusks through millions of years. Perhaps 20 or more hominids (not all of them our ancestors) fill the gap between Lucy the australopithecine and modern humans.

Creationists, though, dismiss these fossil studies. They argue that Archaeopteryx is not a missing link between reptiles and birds — it is just an extinct bird with reptilian features . They want evolutionists to produce a weird, chimeric monster that cannot be classified as belonging to any known group.[47's editorial here: Which is EXACTLY what you and others on this thread are doing] Even if a creationist does accept a fossil as transitional between two species, he or she may then insist on seeing other fossils intermediate between it and the first two. These frustrating requests can proceed ad infinitum and place an unreasonable burden on the always incomplete fossil record.

Sound familiar? Seems like this is EXACTLY what was demanded on this thread. Also, it's exactly what Ham is suggesting in the quote I posted that started this all.

So again, am I interested in playing the anti-evolution shell game of "Give me a transition fossil, ANY one, except THAT one or THAT one or THAT one....."? Not a chance!

85 posted on 05/20/2009 11:27:10 AM PDT by FourtySeven (47)
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To: jessduntno

Oh and for the record, I do not believe in “Cold Fusion” or “Man made Climate change”, but I like how you try to lump what I’m saying in with that junk science.


86 posted on 05/20/2009 11:28:12 AM PDT by FourtySeven (47)
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