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Revolution
American Thinker ^ | May 20, 2009 | Herbert E. Meyer

Posted on 05/19/2009 11:44:49 PM PDT by plsjr

During the last 30 years we Americans have been so politically divided that some of us have called this left-right, liberal-conservative split a "culture war" or even a "second Civil War." These descriptions are no longer accurate. The precise, technical word for what is happening in the United States today is revolution.

Because of our country's history, we tend to think of revolutions as military conflicts, and of the revolutionaries as the good guys; the image of Minutemen fighting valiantly against the British forces at Lexington and Concord lies deep within our DNA. But sometimes -- quite often, actually -- revolutions aren't military conflicts, and the good guys are the ones trying to keep the revolution from happening. In January 1933, Adolf Hitler was appointed chancellor of Germany by its elected president; he would spend the next two years consolidating his power with the legislative connivance of his political allies in the Reichstag. In October 1917, Lenin and his Bolsheviks took control of Russia from Kerensky and his Social Democrats -- who had overthrown the Czar earlier that year -- entirely through parliamentary maneuvering in Russia's fledgling Duma.

What defines a revolution -- and this is the crucial point to grasp -- is that when it's over a country has changed not merely its leaders and its laws, but its operating system.

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial; Government
KEYWORDS: cwii; cwiiping; flushwashington; grassroots; herbertemeyer; herbmeyer; operatingsystems; revolution; socialism; statism
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To: Sig Sauer P220

“The other half will be curled up in the fetal position whimpering.”

One of my favorite t-shirts covers that:

“Trample the weak. Hurdle the dead.”


101 posted on 05/21/2009 9:15:24 PM PDT by PLMerite ("Unarmed, one can only flee from Evil. But Evil isn't overcome by fleeing from it." Jeff Cooper)
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To: Nowhere Man
"This is down the road and speculation but if it got to the point where some states breakaway..."

For the first time in my life, this seems possible. I have never, even during the Clinton years, felt this kind of trepidation hanging in the air so thick it is palpable.
Sudden contact from old friends, long scattered, worried and asking about my well-being sends my blood pressure through the roof, and one even asked if I had a way to leave the country if necessary.
I said I could, but wouldn't. If things got that bad, I could never abandon the country, the places, and people I love and allow others to carry the burden. I will do my share and then some.

"BTW, Mesta Machine, I remember they closed up in the 1970's or early 1980's when I was a kid. I live here in Pittsburgh."

My Grandfather worked there. When I was a kid, used to go down to the gate near the RR tracks and eat lunch with him out of his lunchbox. Sweet, sweet memories are made of this...
It's Sandcastles now, I think. A waterpark that Kennywood built. I've never been there.
Pittsburgh. I stay as far away from there as I can. I'm countryfied now, hiding out in the woods. But my cousin was just a Pubbie long shot candidate for mayor.
Small world.

102 posted on 05/21/2009 10:26:23 PM PDT by MestaMachine (Will global warming make hell hotter? Or is hell freezing over? That is the ???)
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To: Nowhere Man

I don’t like to say this or think this way but it could be our future, both sides have irreconcilable differences
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I have to agree. The divide is too great, the hatred too great, there must be a peaceful division of eventually blood will be spilled.


103 posted on 05/21/2009 10:40:26 PM PDT by mojitojoe ( Idiots elected a Marxist ideologue with narcissistic personality disorder)
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To: plsjr

The left is evil. They do not know it of course. They are self-delusional because they fail to see reality as what is and that reality is an objective fact that cannot be denied because you don’t like it


104 posted on 05/21/2009 10:45:50 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: Noumenon

Excellent profile. A must read for everyone here.


105 posted on 05/21/2009 10:46:23 PM PDT by mojitojoe ( Idiots elected a Marxist ideologue with narcissistic personality disorder)
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To: redgolum

And for those who think the Oath Keepers will not fire, remember that organization is probably a false flag. The Fed by now knows who will and won’t fire on citizens, and will act accordingly.
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God knows none of us really want that to happen but real Americans will fight and not submit to tyranny. The Fed doesn’t know as much as you think they know. I doubt they know how much of the military would love to kick their asses out of there and would side with the people.


106 posted on 05/21/2009 10:48:32 PM PDT by mojitojoe ( Idiots elected a Marxist ideologue with narcissistic personality disorder)
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To: redgolum
. Look at all the plots against Hitler in the German army. They hated the guy, but didn't take action because the military culture is one where you follow orders. Not mutiny. ________________ We are Americans, not Germans and our troops will not bow down to a dictator. Photobucket
107 posted on 05/21/2009 10:51:58 PM PDT by mojitojoe ( Idiots elected a Marxist ideologue with narcissistic personality disorder)
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To: 21twelve

Atlas should shrug


108 posted on 05/21/2009 11:01:58 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: patriot preacher

I do understand your point. My reference to a ‘government gun’ is a metaphor, and perhaps a bit of hyperbole for the increasing use of force by the government to act in what are clearly unconstitutional ways. This is focussed mainly on large institutions, but it’s also starting to impact individuals - ask any of the auto dealers who just had their livelihoods terminated by fiat. (Ouch! bad pun)If you believe that the judgment of your conscience should not be trumped by government coercion, then you’re probably going to wind up on one of Janet Napolitano’s lists.

So I don’t think that hyperbole will appply to that statement for too much longer.

Circumstances have changed. The Waco and Ruby Ridge incidents were for the most part dismissed by the American public as just a bunch of nuts getting what they deserved. That was also the media spin. Now, we have a rising tide of ordinary citizens who are waking up to the fact that their freedom is in dire peril. The tea parties are testimony to that. And they’re not going away.

They can’t Waco all of us, although that won’t prevent them from trying when - not if - they become desperate enough.


109 posted on 05/22/2009 6:46:02 AM PDT by Noumenon (As long as I have a rifle, I STILL have a vote...)
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To: Quix
. . . IN A LONG PLANNED oligarchy coup . . .
Communism is only one of their tools.

'Now I will tell you the answer to my question. It is this. The Party seeks power entirely for its own sake. We are not interested in the good of others; we are interested solely in power. Not wealth or luxury or long life or happiness: only power, pure power.

What pure power means you will understand presently. We are different from all the oligarchies of the past, in that we know what we are doing. All the others, even those who resembled ourselves, were cowards and hypocrites. The German Nazis and the Russian Communists came very close to us in their methods, but they never had the courage to recognize their own motives. They pretended, perhaps they even believed, that they had seized power unwillingly and for a limited time, and that just round the corner there lay a paradise where human beings would be free and equal.

We are not like that. We know that no one ever seizes power with the intention of relinquishing it. Power is not a means, it is an end. One does not establish a dictatorship in order to safeguard a revolution; one makes the revolution in order to establish the dictatorship.

The object of persecution is persecution.
The object of torture is torture.
The object of power is power.

George Orwell - 1984

Orwell was off only by a generation or two...

110 posted on 05/22/2009 6:55:38 AM PDT by Noumenon (As long as I have a rifle, I STILL have a vote...)
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To: Noumenon

YUP.

Thanks.


111 posted on 05/22/2009 8:15:10 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: plsjr
I think a better description is not revolution, but coup. A revolution is a populist movement against the government, a coup is when a section of the populace takes over the existing government with illegal means.

Acorn, extended voting, corruption...

This was a coup, and it will remain to be seen as to the bloodless part. Hitler had a pretty bloodless coup, so to Stalin. It was after Hitler had created the government car (volkswagon) and other such social games that he got down to the real killing and elimination of his opposition.

I think Obama is a very dangerous man, a sock puppet of a very corrupt and evil Marxist movement to destroy Amerca and it's citizens that will not submit.

112 posted on 05/22/2009 1:11:56 PM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: redgolum
You need to read “The Art of War”. Our last best hope is the Aussies. They will help.
113 posted on 05/22/2009 1:17:38 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Nemo me impune lacessit)
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To: MestaMachine
For the first time in my life, this seems possible. I have never, even during the Clinton years, felt this kind of trepidation hanging in the air so thick it is palpable. Sudden contact from old friends, long scattered, worried and asking about my well-being sends my blood pressure through the roof, and one even asked if I had a way to leave the country if necessary.
I said I could, but wouldn't. If things got that bad, I could never abandon the country, the places, and people I love and allow others to carry the burden. I will do my share and then some.


I know, it is like there is something in the air. Yeah, there might have been a little bit of this talk during the Clinton years but after the 2000 election is has really gotten worse. I know of some people who would consider running to Canada but they are worse socialist than us though I would consider Alberta. I think we are headed towards thatl ine in the sand, it is invisible and we don't know where it is but we are headed towards it at 100 MPH.

My Grandfather worked there. When I was a kid, used to go down to the gate near the RR tracks and eat lunch with him out of his lunchbox. Sweet, sweet memories are made of this...
It's Sandcastles now, I think. A waterpark that Kennywood built. I've never been there.
Pittsburgh. I stay as far away from there as I can. I'm countryfied now, hiding out in the woods. But my cousin was just a Pubbie long shot candidate for mayor. Small world.


Interesting. Do you still live near Pittsburgh. One time I took a wrong turn and ended up in Aliquippa Industrial Park, there are still some things there but there are a lot of abandoned buildings and factories, I was getting dressed while driving through it. It was kind of eerie too, it was just me in a Pontiac Vibe driving around a whole slew of abandoned buildings.
114 posted on 05/22/2009 5:55:40 PM PDT by Nowhere Man (Is Barak HUSSEIN Obama an Anti-Christ? - B.O. Stinks! (Robert Riddle))
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To: mojitojoe
I have to agree. The divide is too great, the hatred too great, there must be a peaceful division of eventually blood will be spilled.

I don't know if a peaceful divide is possible but it is the preferred option as long as the libs understand if they screw around with us, they will pay the price. We can still be friends, be part of NATO, work in space together and trade, but I think if they want to run things their way, let them take the very blue areas and leave us to run things our way. If they screw up and booger things up then we go in and clean it up and bring them back to the fold but once tit is done, we run things our way after that.

Beyond that, it could come down to us beating them up or vice versa. It is like two school kids that hate each other and keep fighting, the teacher has to step in and separate them.
115 posted on 05/22/2009 6:00:34 PM PDT by Nowhere Man (Is Barak HUSSEIN Obama an Anti-Christ? - B.O. Stinks! (Robert Riddle))
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To: Noumenon
Orwell was off only by a generation or two...

I have often wondered if some authors, (Chrichton, Asimov, Orwell, Verne...,) were prescient without realizing it; prophets without knowing their words would actualize someday.
Orwell's words are chilling. It IS happening as we watch.
I don't know how many people saw Brian Wilson's report on FoxNews about how the Obama adminstration is moving toward absolute control of how America sees 0 in any situation, at any time.
They are moving to completely cut out any media, (press, or otherwise,) by doing their own filming at any event or meeting, which they edit, press releases with no questions on the part of a whitehouse press corp, and no one will ever see 0 in a bad light, ever.
The example Wilson used was an "impromptu" game of hoops with the U Conn basketball team, in which Obama appeared to make every shot, except we will never know if he missed any, because it was filmed on a cellphone camera by his staff, and edited before it was made public.
Another example was 0 giving his terrorism speech in front of the Constitution. Completely staged for the visual image people would see, as important than anything he said.
Though what he said was meaningless as far as subject, (as is most of what he says,) he used/uses memes to hammer home what they wanted/want people to remember. American Values. Constitution. Bush bad. Barack innocent.
Orwellian beyond belief.
The object of power is power. Truth in its purist form.

116 posted on 05/22/2009 8:54:25 PM PDT by MestaMachine (Will global warming make hell hotter? Or is hell freezing over? That is the ???)
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To: Noumenon

I can’t argue with you on these points. I do believe the time is coming. Barring a miracle, and unexpected change in direction, it is inevitable. But I certainly don’t desire it to come to this (nor do I think you do). It would become history’s greatest tragedy...


117 posted on 05/23/2009 11:52:45 AM PDT by patriot preacher (To be a good American Citizen and a Christian IS NOT a contradiction. (www.mygration.blogspot.com))
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To: broncobilly
If we can keep our “operating system” we can work the other issues out in a democratic way.

It's already beyond working out in a "democratic way". The operating system of this country is broken. The virus called entitlements has taken over, and the constitution has been dessecrated beyond recognition.

Witness the massive voter fraud of the last few elections. Witness the deadbeats of this country having the same voice as those of us paying for their food, clothing and shelter. Witness the plethora of federal agencies that, unconstitutionally, write and then enforce laws that encroach on previously constitutionally guaranteed rights. Witness the growth of entitlement programs, at the expense of productive citizens. Witness the throngs of illegals invading the country, grabbing their piece of the pie (sponsored by your paycheck and mine). Witness the media, bought and payed for by the socialist/democrat party. Witness the militant anger of the left that goes unreported while a simple, factual speech by Cheney, Palin, or Joe the Plumber gets slandered by the leftist machine.

We're there - this constitutional republic is already dead. It's all over but the shooting.

118 posted on 05/23/2009 12:12:33 PM PDT by meyer (Obama is to the USA as Mugabe is to Zimbabwe.)
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To: redgolum
Rifles can’t stop tanks and laser guided bombs.

No, but they can stop throngs of angry freeloaders that, having stolen all that there is to steal and are still hungry, will come looking for more. The throngs of angry freeloaders will be taken down and when they are, the tanks and laser-guided bombs will be returned to their rightful owners - the taxpayers that paid for them.

119 posted on 05/23/2009 12:33:27 PM PDT by meyer (Obama is to the USA as Mugabe is to Zimbabwe.)
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To: El Gato
Or there might be a Soviet style election, with ballots cast, and votes counted, but with the two having virtually no relationship to one another.

Read up on Acorn's role in early voting in Ohio last November - we've already seen that in the US.

120 posted on 05/23/2009 12:37:43 PM PDT by meyer (Obama is to the USA as Mugabe is to Zimbabwe.)
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