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Huntsman strategist: If Palin and Limbaugh dominate, GOP 'headed for a blowout' in 2012
Washington Examiner ^ | 05/18/09 | Byron York

Posted on 05/18/2009 7:22:04 AM PDT by redk

The Republican strategist who helped Utah Gov. Jon Huntsman prepare for a possible presidential run says the Republican party is in for a devastating defeat if its guiding lights are Sarah Palin, Rush Limbaugh and Dick Cheney. "If it's 2012 and our party is defined by Palin and Limbaugh and Cheney, then we're headed for a blowout," says strategist John Weaver, who advised Huntsman and was for years a close adviser to Sen. John McCain. "That's just the truth."

Huntsman, a favorite of GOP moderates, left the Republican presidential race last week after accepting President Obama's offer to become U.S. ambassador to China. Before that, Huntsman appeared to be working hard on preparations for 2012. "He had not made a decision to run for president, but he had made a decision to prepare to run," says Weaver. "We were probably a month away from announcing the formation of a political action committee, so we were pretty far down the road."

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TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Utah
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To: ansel12

Huntsman was the media pick to be the Republican standard bearer. That should be enough to finish him in the minds of most conservatives. We definitely don’t need the media picking another GOP candidate, McCain was bad enough.


201 posted on 05/19/2009 11:44:51 AM PDT by Eva (union motto - Aim for mediocrity, it's only fair.)
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To: bilhosty

Specter is a known traitor.

But Romney is the backstabber, using agents and operatives
and their spouses to attack a GOP candidate
(DURING THE ELECTION) to help Romney in 2012 by
hurting the GOP and the American public from 2009-2012.

Disgusting. Poor sport. 100% Romney.


202 posted on 05/19/2009 12:15:20 PM PDT by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: Eva

Indeed.

My rule of thumb in the next primary will be to vote for whichever Candidate the MSM hates most.


203 posted on 05/19/2009 3:09:48 PM PDT by HailReagan78
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To: redk

So who are some attractive candidates beside Palin? I say besides Palin, not because I am ruling her out, but only because everyone knows about her. Are there other good potential candidates out there for the 2012 presidential race? Could you list the accomplishments and what you personally like about the person?


204 posted on 05/24/2009 4:40:19 PM PDT by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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To: NavVet

McCain reminded me of a boxer who was paid to “take a dive”.


205 posted on 05/24/2009 4:42:16 PM PDT by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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To: bilhosty

About the demographic changes from Mexico? Those changes wouldn’t be there if both Democrats and RINOs did not conspire to keep the border open. Also consider that there are many people who are not happy with illegal immigration. These people cut across all party lines and would be glad to vote for a leader that expresses their concerns about national sovereignty.

Many of the “demographic changes from Mexico” cannot vote since they are here illegally. This is our last chance to protect OUR patrimony and stop being false-guilt infested door mats.


206 posted on 05/24/2009 5:04:46 PM PDT by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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To: Big_Monkey

What is the white population going to feel like after 4 years of Obama stick-it-to-the-evil-white-people policies? Will we have more affirmative action or less? I don’t see any lessening of anti-white rhetoric or policies. For more than 40 years, we have been the scapegoats for other people’s mistakes and bad behavior. People will see this and will vote their self interest.


207 posted on 05/24/2009 5:37:10 PM PDT by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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To: All

All Rinos are unelectable if they run for President. If they dominate the Republican party then the party will die and be headed for a “Blowout.” Rinos offend both sides and thus are a joke and unelectable as President of the USA.


208 posted on 05/24/2009 5:46:57 PM PDT by Mozilla
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To: cradle of freedom
"For more than 40 years, we have been the scapegoats for other people’s mistakes and bad behavior. People will see this and will vote their self interest.

In forty(ish) years, every white person in the country could vote for the GOP candidate, and if racially-based demographic trends continue as they are today, the GOP candidate would still lose the election.

It is a mathematical certainty that they GOP can't afford to lose the minority, and especially the Hispanic, vote by such a large margin and still expect to be a relevant party in the coming decades.

209 posted on 05/24/2009 5:48:05 PM PDT by Big_Monkey (Obama Motors - you're going to pay for my cars whether you bought one or not.)
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To: Big_Monkey

The demographic trends are the doing of the Democrats who connived to fill the country with Democrat voting demographics. That needs to be changed. See how the Democrats after the 1965 immigration changes, flooded the country with poor immigrants - the type of people who are most likely to vote for them. We should not take this lying down. When we were the majority for eight years, Bush and the Republican Party did not address this problem. Instead Bush went into the disgusting white guilt mode, fawning and bowing before everything that the Mexican government wanted. This white guilt crap has to stop now. We have to consider that our children will inherit the problems that will be passed on to them because of our cowardice.

Why should we be the minority? Does anyone have a good answer for this except that somehow we need to be punished for being born white? There is a word for this - masochism.

Now as far as the Hispanic voters, I believe that many of them are sick and tired of seeing their communites taken over by illegal aliens. If you had been living in a nice safe neighborhood and then millions of white illegal aliens overwhelmed your community, taking your jobs, making you pay higher taxes for schools and welfare, taking away your kids quality of education, closing hospitals, stuffing twenty people in neighboring houses, and overruning the community with violent gangs; would you be happy to accept all of this because the intruders were the same color as you? How dumb would that be?

Many Hispanic voters in Arizona helped to pass some of the anti-illegal immigration measures that were passed in that state. Hispanics who are middleclass or who aspire to be middleclass do not want to live in a barrio. They left their homelands to get out of the barrio. They came here because they wanted an American way of life with opportunity, schools, decent standard of living, low corruption and low crime. When we let illegal aliens flood the country, the quality of life of the Hispanics who are already here goes downhill.

We cannot play identity politics the way that Democrats do. Don’t you see what Democrats do to get votes? They go around to this group and that making promises. The Democrats do not say it in this blatant way, but what the Democrats are really doing is promising special treatment for each group. This is about giving away tax payer money, promising patronage jobs, affirmative action, and what ever the ethnic/special interest group wants. They try to be everything to everybody? Do you want us to be the same way? And in the end, they are dividing people as they appeal to group interests not individual interests. Conservatives are supposed to appeal to peoples’ reason not greed and self interest like the Democrats do.


210 posted on 05/24/2009 6:30:10 PM PDT by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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To: Big_Monkey

If Bush and McCain lost the Hispanic vote it wasn’t for a lack of craven pandering.


211 posted on 05/24/2009 6:39:26 PM PDT by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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To: cradle of freedom
"Why should we be the minority?

I wasn't commenting on what should, or should not happen. I was making an observational comment based on simple mathematics.

Even if immigration, legal or otherwise, was halted today, Hispanics would still be the fastest growing racial demographic based upon the fact that they do now, and have historically reproduced at a much greater rate than their Anglo counterparts. With a freeze on immigration, the whites probably wouldn't reach minority status by 2050. But, the Hispanics would become a super-minority nonetheless. They would still be a formidable voting block and one that the GOP could not win a national election without capturing a greater percentage than what they did in 2008.

If you don't like the term, identity politics, then fine, don't use it. But, you can't ignore the facts. The GOP cannot win future elections without doing better with the Hispanic, as well as the black demographic. It's just a factual statement, not an endorsement of a particular policy position.

212 posted on 05/24/2009 6:55:13 PM PDT by Big_Monkey (Obama Motors - you're going to pay for my cars whether you bought one or not.)
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To: cradle of freedom
No disagreement from me.
213 posted on 05/25/2009 10:42:49 AM PDT by bilhosty (Tax payers for change)
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To: redk
Huntsman strategist: If Palin and Limbaugh dominate, GOP 'headed for a blowout' in 2012

Freudian slip on his part:

blow·out
Pronunciation:
\ˈblō-ˌau̇t\
Function:
noun
Date:
1822
1 : a festive social affair
2 : a bursting of a container (as a tire) by pressure of the contents on a weak spot
3 : an uncontrolled eruption of an oil or gas well
4 : an easy or one-sided victory

If Rush and Palin and Cheney-type Republicans predominate, the 2012 (and even 2010) elections will be a blow-out for the Republicans.
214 posted on 05/25/2009 10:49:28 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: Big_Monkey

Blacks vote 90% Democrat. Latinos do not vote 90% Democrat, they are more divided even though they vote largely Democrat. I think that by appealing to people’s good sense you can cut across many ethnic lines.

Democrats think in terms of block votes which means pandering to different groups by implying that they will be treated better than others. This is not the way we do things. Ronald Reagan didn’t have to do this. He spoke to Americanism, all the common beliefs that made this country a special place. He didn’t sell out his country in order to get a block of votes. Ronald Reagan had strong life long beliefs which he articulated in a simple and powerful way. Many Republicans sound like robots or like someone at a corporate board meeting. There is no life or humanity to their speach. The Democrats have the common touch when they are speaking to people. I know they are phonies but they at least express themselves in ways that appeal to the realities of people’s lives. Reagan sounded like a human being not like so many Republicans.

Ronald Reagan was the last Republican president who had a soul. This is what we need, a Republican party with a soul.


215 posted on 05/25/2009 4:21:52 PM PDT by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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