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Indiana Says 'No Thanks' to Cap and Trade ("Imperialism")
Wall Street Journal ^ | May 15, 2009 | Mitch Daniels

Posted on 05/15/2009 6:32:14 AM PDT by reaganaut1

This week Congress is set to release the details of the Waxman-Markey American Clean Energy and Security Act, a bill that purports to combat global warming by setting strict limits on carbon emissions. [...] But it's clear to me that the nation, and in particular Indiana, my home state, will be terribly disserved by this cap-and-trade policy on the verge of passage in the House.

The largest scientific and economic questions are being addressed by others, so I will confine myself to reporting about how all this looks from the receiving end of the taxes, restrictions and mandates Congress is now proposing.

Quite simply, it looks like imperialism. This bill would impose enormous taxes and restrictions on free commerce by wealthy but faltering powers -- California, Massachusetts and New York -- seeking to exploit politically weaker colonies in order to prop up their own decaying economies. Because proceeds from their new taxes, levied mostly on us, will be spent on their social programs while negatively impacting our economy, we Hoosiers decline to submit meekly.

The Waxman-Markey legislation would more than double electricity bills in Indiana. Years of reform in taxation, regulation and infrastructure-building would be largely erased at a stroke. In recent years, Indiana has led the nation in capturing international investment, repatriating dollars spent on foreign goods or oil and employing Americans with them. Waxman-Markey seems designed to reverse that flow. "Closed: Gone to China" signs would cover Indiana's stores and factories.

Our state's share of national income has been slipping for decades, but it is offset in part by living costs some 8% lower than the national average. Doubled utility bills for low-income Hoosiers would be an especially cruel consequence of the Waxman bill.

(Excerpt) Read more at online.wsj.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Editorial; US: Indiana
KEYWORDS: 111th; bho44; capandtax; capandtrade; congress; democratcongress; democrats; democratscongress; economy; energy; fascism; globalwarming; markey; mitchdaniels; obama; obamavoters; socialism; statesrights; taxes; waxman; waxmanmarkey
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Indiana said "yes" in voting for Obama. We'll need her back in 2012.
1 posted on 05/15/2009 6:32:14 AM PDT by reaganaut1
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To: xcamel; steelyourfaith

ping


2 posted on 05/15/2009 6:33:22 AM PDT by reaganaut1
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To: reaganaut1

“Indiana said “yes” in voting for Obama.”

We are trying to forget that.
Anyway, go Mitch! In Indiana, we get over 90% of our electricity from coal. That would hurt.


3 posted on 05/15/2009 6:35:45 AM PDT by caver (Obama's first goals: allow more killing of innocents and allow the killers of innocents to go free.)
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To: reaganaut1

“The truth shall set you free”.

Once people are educated about all this evil nonsense, they will reject it.

The key is getting people educated and aware.


4 posted on 05/15/2009 6:37:38 AM PDT by unkus
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To: reaganaut1

whoo hoo! I like the language.


5 posted on 05/15/2009 6:38:21 AM PDT by silverleaf ("Never forget that everything Hitler did in Germany was legal ( Martin Luther King))
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To: reaganaut1
He's been an excellent governor.
But I didn't vote for his reelection last year because he forced Daylight Saving Time on us.
6 posted on 05/15/2009 6:39:09 AM PDT by curmudgeonII (Vocatus atque non vocatus deus aderit.)
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To: reaganaut1
Waxman gets way too much money from the Chinese. The Chinese spent a fortune investing in environmental groups that were responsible for moving our industry to China where pollution goes unchecked. Liberalism always has a reverse effect.
7 posted on 05/15/2009 6:42:38 AM PDT by IC Ken
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To: reaganaut1

Indiana get 95% of it’s electricity from coal powered generating plants, and the unemployment is over 10% and climbing.


8 posted on 05/15/2009 6:43:10 AM PDT by A. Morgan (The problem with Socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money. Margaret Thatcher)
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To: unkus

Holy cow!!!

This is the type of ‘push-back’ that we need against the radical policies of the Pelosi’s, Reid’s and Obama’s currently dragging us down the road to socialism...

Indiana’s Governor should continue to stand tall.

There are plenty others out there right now. Perry in Texas, Jindal in Louisiana, Palin in Alaska.

Obama and the Democrats want to cram their radical agenda down our throats before we realize what it truly means...

STAND TALL GOVERNORS!!!!


9 posted on 05/15/2009 6:46:26 AM PDT by Former MSM Viewer ("We will hunt the terrorists in every dark corner of the earth. We will be relentless." W 2001)
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To: A. Morgan

We’re building a windmill this fall which will provide all the electricity the out buildings will need, also installing a tankless water heater this summer. Got the wood pile started for wood heat.....Country folks DO survive.


10 posted on 05/15/2009 6:50:04 AM PDT by hoosiermama (Berg is a liberal democrat. Keyes is a conservative. Obama is bringing us together already!)
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To: reaganaut1
Indiana said "yes" in voting for Obama. We'll need her back in 2012.

Notice that we still have a Republican Governor. Even tho people elected to be "part of history"(right or wrong) they have not completely lost their minds here yet.

11 posted on 05/15/2009 6:52:57 AM PDT by Earthdweller (Socialism makes you feel better about oppressing people.....)
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To: reaganaut1

bump


12 posted on 05/15/2009 6:57:06 AM PDT by gibsosa
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To: reaganaut1
Way to go Gov. Daniels!!!!!!!! Cap & Trade will destroy Indiana and our Gov. knows this. He's fighting back! Whoo hoo!

As to Indiana voting 'yes' for Obama - I've said this before and I'll say it again....Obama only won Indiana by 28,000 votes. That's it - just 1%. And there was massive voter fraud in both Marion and Lake Counties which is still under investigation. More than half of this state DID NOT GO for Obama!!!!!!!!!!!!

13 posted on 05/15/2009 6:59:26 AM PDT by conservativegramma ((No taxation without constitutional representation!))
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To: hoosiermama

What are you gonna do when the wind is not blowing????? Which is ~70% of the time.


14 posted on 05/15/2009 7:00:23 AM PDT by nuke rocketeer (File CONGRESS.SYS corrupted: Re-boot Washington D.C (Y/N)?)
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To: reaganaut1
From the article:

Most importantly, we are out to be the world leader in making clean coal -- including the potential for carbon capture and sequestration emphasis added

The best way to "sequester" carbon is living things. I have literally hundreds of tons of sequestered carbon in my yard, my grass, my trees, the two deer running through it this morning.

I firmly believe that even if some new, cheap, clean (whatever the heck that really means) energy source were found, that the environmentally responsible thing to do would be to dig up all the coal, oil, and natural gas and burn it anyway, thus releasing all that trapped carbon back to the biosphere where it can turn into living things.

< /drumbeat>

15 posted on 05/15/2009 7:00:50 AM PDT by lafroste (gravity is not a force. See my profile to read my novel absolutely free (I know, beyond shameless))
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To: reaganaut1
No honest estimate pretends to suggest that a U.S. cap-and-trade regime will move the world's thermometer by so much as a tenth of a degree a half century from now. My fellow citizens are being ordered to accept impoverishment for a policy that won't save a single polar bear.

Well said, Gov. Daniels. It will be a huge tax increase for Indiana residents.
16 posted on 05/15/2009 7:02:43 AM PDT by Girlene
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To: reaganaut1
"Indiana said "yes" in voting for Obama."

By a narrow margin, and I'm still trying to forget that...
17 posted on 05/15/2009 7:04:38 AM PDT by jaydubya2
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To: nuke rocketeer

By the grace of God, I live in an area in the hills of southern IN, where we have almost continuous air movement. Plus, the generator has storage for several hours of power.


18 posted on 05/15/2009 7:06:36 AM PDT by hoosiermama (Berg is a liberal democrat. Keyes is a conservative. Obama is bringing us together already!)
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To: reaganaut1
WAY TO GO GOVERNOR DANIELS!!
19 posted on 05/15/2009 7:06:44 AM PDT by lucyblue
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To: Girlene
It will be a huge tax increase for Indiana residents.

Yep. Hubby and I have been trying to figure out how we were going to survive next winter if this thing passed. We would have been hit easily with $1,000+/month gas bill, which we simply can't afford. The thing I would change in Daniel's comments is his use of the word 'meekly'. He should have used the words we decline forcefully! JMO.

20 posted on 05/15/2009 7:06:59 AM PDT by conservativegramma ((No taxation without constitutional representation!))
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