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Schwarzenegger to lay off 5,000 state workers
Sac Bee ^ | 5/13/09 | Kevin Yamamura

Posted on 05/14/2009 1:43:23 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger will direct his administration to send 5,000 layoff notices to state workers Friday, according to a source familiar with the governor's budget plan.

The Republican governor plans to eliminate 5,000 workers by the end of June, ..

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Business/Economy; Culture/Society; US: California
KEYWORDS: calbudget; caleducation; calemployment; california; calinitiatives; layoff; schwarzenegger; stateworkers
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To: calcowgirl
Thanks very much! There is enough here to kill any claim of state or local government sanity whatsoever.

I've imported the data into two spreadsheets and will post some of the more staggering data from these later. These are each a one-month snapshot of government spending - specifically the month of March, 2007. State government in CA has grown to nearly double that of 2007. Projected figures for today are more than astounding - they are positively criminal! They have partied hardy, and the spree is about to be completely over. The fallout will be devastating for government officials, not just for taxpayers.

Thanks again!

Ron

141 posted on 05/15/2009 12:36:54 AM PDT by Ron C.
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To: Ron C.; SFConservative

You’re welcome! It is the only source I’ve ever seen for these numbers (haven’t been able to find headcount numbers at the ca State dept of finance or EDD websites). If you know of any, let me know.

March 2007 is the most current on that website. The database does go backward, although I didn’t look at those. My main objective was to point out that 5,000 employees being laid off is probably equivalent to normal monthly attrition.

I’d be interested in what you come up with. SFConservative also seemed interested in looking at some details (see posts a few above). Please ping me if you complete your analysis.


142 posted on 05/15/2009 12:42:49 AM PDT by calcowgirl (RECALL Abel Maldonado! - NO on Props 1A 1B 1C 1D 1E 1F)
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To: calcowgirl
Will do... I'm busy building in extra columns to track how much they are spending per employee (excess above wages - which is part of the data, and tells you what they are actually spending on 'services' that make sense to we-lowly citizens.) The answer to that is, not much. Just look at highways.

I've seen data that indicates that state government size (employees and additional agencies) has nearly doubled in the last two years. I'll go find that and use this as basis to extrapolate where we really are today.

It looks like we may be 70 billion in red ink about now, and you're right. Laying off 5000 is a pittance - definitely equivalent to average attrition.

Things are going to get awfully hot for the pols in Sacto in the coming weeks!

143 posted on 05/15/2009 12:56:20 AM PDT by Ron C.
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To: Ron C.
It looks like we may be 70 billion in red ink

Not that bad, IMO. For the current year, they're were facing maybe a 25 billion deficit (before consideration for the 2 years of sales tax increases, increased car fees, etc). Also, the numbers they are throwing around are for two years. When Arnie talks about a $42 billion deficit, cut it in half for the annual figure. Their game right now is to make it sound BIG, HUGE, Unsolvable! (without tax increases).

Remember the numbers that were throw around when Gray Davis was recalled? $20-$30 billion? The actual deficit was $6 billion dollars. And Arnie sold voters on a $15 billion dollar bond to solve it.

They're criminal, IMO.

144 posted on 05/15/2009 1:13:06 AM PDT by calcowgirl (RECALL Abel Maldonado! - NO on Props 1A 1B 1C 1D 1E 1F)
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To: calcowgirl
"...these numbers are pretty outrageous..." (education)

They sure are outrageous - close to one million employees, each earning an average of near 60K per year - but, that includes janitors, office help and temp teachers, who collect peanuts by comparison to 'tenured' teachers that get the equivalent of 3 1/2 months vacation every year, with pay.

145 posted on 05/15/2009 2:08:55 AM PDT by Ron C.
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To: NormsRevenge
That's ALL?!?! That's like stepping on the scale after you trim a hangnail to see if you lost any weight.

The Department of Corrections alone has 50,000 employees, and that's just one department. Department of C-hild S'port has over 10,000 employees. The DMV alone at any given moment (M-F, between 9-5 Pacific Standard Time) has about 5,000 people standing behind the counter doing a whole lot of nothing.

Not to mention all the non-profit associations these departments pay dues to have their directors & attorneys belong to...
146 posted on 05/15/2009 3:16:37 AM PDT by MonicaG (Thank you to our military & veterans, with love & gratitude. XOXOXO)
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To: calcowgirl
"Not that bad, IMO."

Oh how I wish you were right!

What follows is from a good friend that keeps his eyes on Sacto every day... this is as of yesterday.

Until CalPers, the State pension plan, is fixed, Californians are in deep trouble. At the last accounting the system was $181 billion upside down. My guess is that due to losses and the stock market, it is over $200 billion in the red.

And, this is the law...

"Under state law, when CalPERS pension funds are not sufficient to pay for public employees' generous defined pension benefits, taxpayers are forced to make up the difference."

We now have a $63 billion deficit, over $114 billion in debt, and now another $200 billion debt -- all to be paid for by the taxpayers.

Luckily that is $7 billion below the estimated $70 billion we would probably be in the hole by election day, May 19th. But, at the rate it's going up, it'll be at minimum $65 billion mid next week - and over $70 billion by the end of the following week.

147 posted on 05/15/2009 3:32:15 AM PDT by Ron C.
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To: Ron C.
a P.S. to calcowgirl,

I meant to add a link to my prior. Steve is a friend that daily tracks the state-gov mess better than most. Hope you find his website interesting.

You can read on his site what was going on back in 2007 in his archives... that tells you that state gov was growing at a horrendous rate per month long-about May 2007 (if my memory serves, the average was well over 3K new employees per month.

Using news reports in 2007 and 2008, I've come up with my wrap-up - adding growth rate to the 2007 figures. It appears that current state-gov employment is roughly 70-75 thousand more employees today than the 387 thousand shown in the 2007 census listing - for a total today of roughly 462,000 state employees - each one drawing an average of 65K per year, at a cost to the taxpayer of over $30 billion per year.

I'll freepmail a link to a copy of my XL spreadsheet tomorrow, after I get it where you can pull it down. (It's too wide to post here...) 8^)

148 posted on 05/15/2009 4:04:00 AM PDT by Ron C.
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To: DoughtyOne
None of this is new ground but it the usual big tent cycle. Once the big tent starts kicking the circus clowns out you are often left with a bunch of pup tents with their own “principles” which they think are more important than the principles in all the other pup tents. Then when the pup tents are angry and fed up enough with the opposition party now occupying the “big tent”, the pup tents come together to re-occupy the big tent (circus clowns and all) and the cycle repeats as varying principles vie against each other for dominance and importance back in the big tent again.

All that being said, I do think there's too many Republicans who are too ready to apologize for the GOP. Rightly (as in the case of too much spending) or wrongly, it's no way to win an election as McCain and Dole demonstrated.

149 posted on 05/15/2009 5:53:12 AM PDT by rhombus
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To: calcowgirl

Your post was to someone else, but it’s a great tip, thanks. I have always hated variable fonts.


150 posted on 05/15/2009 6:21:13 AM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Obama's multi- trillion dollar agenda would be a "man caused disaster")
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To: kcvl

About time..some of them don’t work they just collect pay check.


151 posted on 05/15/2009 7:07:47 AM PDT by jrolfedrev
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To: Carry_Okie
Go away Arnold. I'd rather have a Democrat to blame for this disaster.

LOL! Kinda makes you pine for the good ol' Davis days.

152 posted on 05/15/2009 7:21:38 AM PDT by randog (Tap into America!)
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To: randog
Kinda makes you pine for the good ol' Davis days.

It would have been better, because increased spending would have had real opposition.

153 posted on 05/15/2009 7:32:19 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (There are people in power with a passion for evil.)
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To: NormsRevenge

"Yooooou are aaaallll fiyad!!!!"


154 posted on 05/15/2009 7:59:48 AM PDT by montyspython (Love that chicken from Popeye's)
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To: rhombus

Thanks for your comments Rhombus. I agree with your take on things.


155 posted on 05/15/2009 10:08:34 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Pres__ent Obama's own grandmother says he was born in Kenya. She was there.)
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To: NormsRevenge
The Republican governor

Bizarro.

156 posted on 05/15/2009 10:11:22 AM PDT by MaxMax (America's population is 304-Million. Obama must punish America for the other 4.7 Billion)
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To: NormsRevenge
what do you call 5000 lawyers at the bottom of the ocean?.....a good start.....

not to make light of this situation, but you can't have people retiring on full pay with medical at 55 or 60 and expect to have enough money for anything.....

why don't the union thugs sit down and make significant give backs to save jobs?.....

157 posted on 05/15/2009 10:14:10 AM PDT by cherry
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To: calcowgirl

I completely agree.


158 posted on 05/15/2009 12:39:06 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud Dad of a U.S. Army Infantry Soldier presently instructing at Ft. Benning.)
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To: DoughtyOne; All
D.O. I just heard on Glenn Beck that Barney Frank is moving to Bail Out California.

Guy's is there anything we can do to stop this madness?

159 posted on 05/15/2009 3:49:40 PM PDT by Mad Dawgg (will work for bailout bonus.... Twitter: maddawggmorgan)
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To: Mad Dawgg

They are throwing money around like it was made by zig-zag.

I’m a Californian, and I detest the state getting federal funds for a bailout.

The state’s leadership has been bordering criminal behavior. For instance, when they went into deficit spending, they were in violation of the state constitution. They not only didn’t get called on it, but they changed the constitution to allow it.

I would run the politicians in Sacramento out on a rail if I could.

Can we stop it. Hell, McCain and Graham probably think it’s as wise as Barney does. Good luck!


160 posted on 05/15/2009 4:04:04 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Pres__ent Obama's own grandmother says he was born in Kenya. She was there.)
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