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Obama's Census Nominee Likely to Face Questions on ACORN, Sampling in Confirmation Hearing
CNSNews.com ^ | May 13, 2009 | Fred Lucas

Posted on 05/13/2009 3:56:26 AM PDT by Man50D

Changing the formula for the U.S. Census could mean shifting up to two dozen congressional seats to the Democrats, a Republican congressman warned Tuesday, as the Senate prepared to consider the nomination of Robert Groves as director of the Census Bureau.

Groves supports “sampling” in the census count. Sampling uses statistical “adjustments” to add people to the Census who apparently were not counted.

The Senate Committee on Homeland Security and Government Affairs will hold a hearing Friday on the nomination of Groves, who currently serves as director of the Survey Research Center at the University of Michigan's Institute for Social Research.

When Groves was the associate director of the Census Bureau in 1990, he recommended statistical sampling to make up for the projected “undercount” of 5 million people.

These essentially made-up people--meant to represent the undercounted--are assigned a gender, race, income, and generalized region based on the Census Bureau’s formula. Republicans have argued that such a formula is prone to politicization and error.

Rep. Patrick McHenry (R-N.C.), ranking member of the House Subcommittee on Information Policy, Census and National Archives, acknowledged previous comments by Obama Administration officials that they have no plans to push sampling, but he thinks the Groves nomination casts doubt on that assertion.

“They are saying, right now, they have no plans to sample. The way you are forced to sample is by saying we have bad counts. The Census failed. Therefore, we have to sample. We have to estimate,” McHenry told a gathering at the conservative Heritage Foundation on Tuesday.

“Therefore, they can have the political goal they seek, which is taking imaginary Democrats and forcing apportionment and districts to be drawn based on imaginary Democrats,” said McHenry. “You can then draw districts with real Democrats that really vote and can change districts in a real way. So this is the fight that we have on our hands.”

After the nomination was announced last month, Commerce Secretary Gary Locke had high praise for Groves.

“The decennial census faces significant challenges, but I am confident that Robert’s leadership will help us meet those challenges,” Locke said in a statement. “He is a respected social scientist who will run the Census Bureau with integrity and independence.”

The American Statistical Association threw their support behind Groves, calling concerns about sampling “spurious.”

“Commerce Secretary Gary Locke, who will be Dr. Groves’ boss, has assured the Congress that there will be no statistical adjustment in the 2010 count. The Supreme Court has also weighed in against such adjustment for reapportionment cases,” said a statement from the American Statistical Association.

“The taking of a decennial census is the largest peacetime mobilization that occurs in the United States. The 2010 count is less than a year away. It is time for a leader to take charge and get this count done. Dr. Robert Groves is that leader,” ASA added.

The Census, the enumeration of the population that takes place every 10 years to determine the country’s population, is the basis for apportionment of congressional districts.

“We’ve had some in the press say the Census folks say it can’t be done, there’s not enough time,” McHenry told CNSNews.com. “In April of 1999, the news story was the Census Bureau planned to use this kind of manipulation. This thing can be done. It’s a matter of computer software.

“It’s a matter of who’s in charge to plug in the numbers. What we’re talking about is between a dozen and two dozen [congressional] seats. It’s a simple population shift from ex-urban to suburban,” McHenry added.

McHenry hopes to push the Senate committee to ask about sampling, as well as the Census Bureau’s partnership with the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (ACORN), which was recently indicted in Nevada and is facing investigations in a dozen other states for alleged voter registration fraud.

CNSNews.com reported the partnership between the Census Bureau and ACORN last week – one day after the state of Nevada filed criminal charges against the organization.

“[T]here should be enough concern to prevent them from being an affiliate or partner with the Census,” McHenry said.

ACORN has denied charges in Nevada. Meanwhile, both ACORN and the Census Bureau told CNSNews.com that ACORN would not receive any federal funds.

There are no rules to prevent ACORN from recruiting enumerators for the Census, said McHenry.

“They don’t have solid requirements for partnership. We’ve asked them directly: What are the standards for being a partner and what are the standards for exclusion in the partnership program?” McHenry said.

“The GAO report says there are no standards for that and the bureau has admitted as much. We have to raise enough furor over this, and the Groves nomination can be a way of forcing this issue and make him answer whether or not an organization that is under indictment should be a partner,” McHenry added.

The Census was also a contentious issue after Sen. Judd Gregg (R-N.H.) declined Obama’s nomination to be the Commerce secretary, largely because of White House plans to reportedly place control over the 2010 census directly in the White House, allegedly under the oversight of Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel.

White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs responded in February that, “The census is an entity of the Department of Commerce. The Commerce secretary will oversee that, obviously in consultation with Congress and the White House. Historically, the White House, as well as Congress, have been involved. The Census counting will be done by the Census Bureau.”

McHenry believes the White House has left itself some wiggle room to take over the Census.

“I have few concerns about Rahm Emanuel running a non-partisan little league team, much less the Census,” McHenry said. “The fact is, we know what their agenda is. They tried it in 1990, they tried it in 2000.”


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1 posted on 05/13/2009 3:56:26 AM PDT by Man50D
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To: Man50D
Groves supports “sampling” in the census count. Sampling uses statistical “adjustments” to add people to the Census who apparently were not counted.

Yeah, let's put ACORN in charge of that.

The don't call them the evil party and the stupid party for nothing.

2 posted on 05/13/2009 3:59:25 AM PDT by Travis McGee ("Foreign Enemies And Traitors" preorders are being mailed out.)
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To: Man50D

Goverment Chicago style. Al Capone still lives.


3 posted on 05/13/2009 3:59:59 AM PDT by scooby321
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To: Man50D
If they are planning to use sampling to adjust anyway, why are they sending stooges out to GPS everyone’s front door???

Government, just plain out of control...

4 posted on 05/13/2009 4:05:20 AM PDT by Kay Ludlow (Government actions ALWAYS have unintended consequences...)
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To: Man50D

It’s a criminal conspiracy.

There is no other way to explain it.

Obama and his Democrat party stooges are planning on criminally ensuring election results.

A Coup de Tat’ without a shot being fired.


5 posted on 05/13/2009 4:17:06 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: Man50D
Meanwhile, both ACORN and the Census Bureau told CNSNews.com that ACORN would not receive any federal funds.

What's up with that, I thought acorn was slated to get somewhere between $2 and $4 billion via TARP? Or is that a separate issue...

6 posted on 05/13/2009 4:20:10 AM PDT by C210N (A patriot for a Conservative Renaissance!)
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To: Man50D

After agressive questioning he will be promptly confirmed


7 posted on 05/13/2009 4:22:06 AM PDT by VTenigma
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To: Man50D

Sampling? Is that anything like “voter intent”?


8 posted on 05/13/2009 4:40:12 AM PDT by Oratam
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To: Man50D

BTTT


9 posted on 05/13/2009 5:24:18 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: Man50D

With ACORN working the census and the White House crew overseeing it there is a lot of money that could be saved by simply eliminating all the field employees and most of the rest of the staff and going to Population Estimation, a much more cost effective method and one that will produce the numbers needed more efficiently than doing an actual count and then “interpreting” the numbers and “sampling”. The results will be the same no matter how the census is accomplished. The numbers are already stored in the hats from which they are to be pulled at the appropriate time.


10 posted on 05/13/2009 6:40:13 AM PDT by arthurus (ACORN + Amnesty = Venezuelan Democracy in the USSSA)
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To: Man50D
Republicans have argued that such a formula is prone to politicization and error.

Republicans have argued that such a formula is designed to produce politicization and politically correct results.

11 posted on 05/13/2009 6:42:53 AM PDT by arthurus (ACORN + Amnesty = Venezuelan Democracy in the USSSA)
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To: Man50D; All

Groves Confirmation hearings on now. C-SPAN2 Live Stream
http://cspan.org/Watch/C-SPAN2_wm.aspx


12 posted on 05/15/2009 7:30:00 AM PDT by anglian
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To: MeekOneGOP; bamahead

Ping


13 posted on 05/15/2009 9:31:32 AM PDT by EdReform (The right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed *NRA*JPFO*SAF*GOA*SAS*CCRKBA)
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To: Venturer

A Coup de Tat’ without a shot being fired.
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Why not? They work daily on their little Coup and nobody does anything to stop them. Where were millions of Americans protesting ACORN and the WH taking over the census?


14 posted on 05/15/2009 10:03:40 AM PDT by mojitojoe ( Idiots elected a Marxist ideologue with narcissistic personality disorder & America is dying.)
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To: Travis McGee

If you decide to fill out the census (or parts that are any of their biz) when you get to the part about race/ethnicity, mark NATIVE AMERICAN. If you’re born in this country, you’re a native. Let ‘em deal with that demographic.

na·tive (ntv)
adj.
1. Existing in or belonging to one by nature; innate: native ability.
2. Being such by birth or origin: a native Scot.
3. Being one’s own because of the place or circumstances of one’s birth: our native land.
4. Originating, growing, or produced in a certain place or region; indigenous: a plant native to Asia.


15 posted on 05/15/2009 10:11:47 AM PDT by AuntB (The right to vote in America: Blacks 1870; Women 1920; Native Americans 1925; Foreigners 2008)
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To: Man50D
They can gripe all they want, they don't have the votes to affect a change. Elect honest Conservatives or lay down and play dead.

The McCains and their ilk have doomed our country.

16 posted on 05/15/2009 11:10:20 AM PDT by itsahoot (Each generation takes to excess, what the previous generation accepted in moderation.)
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To: Man50D

Are the “census” GPS front door taggers from ACORN?


17 posted on 05/15/2009 11:12:15 AM PDT by CheneyChick
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To: C210N
I thought acorn was slated to get somewhere between $2 and $4 billion via TARP?

According to Glenn Beck, there are a couple dozen or more front organizations all tied to a single address, owned by the founders of Acorn.

It is a massive fraud machine with the added benefit of aiding the Democrat party.

18 posted on 05/15/2009 11:13:50 AM PDT by itsahoot (Each generation takes to excess, what the previous generation accepted in moderation.)
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To: arthurus
The numbers are already stored in the hats from which they are to be pulled at the appropriate time.

Bingo!

19 posted on 05/15/2009 11:14:51 AM PDT by itsahoot (Each generation takes to excess, what the previous generation accepted in moderation.)
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To: Man50D
The only relevant question to this Marxist tool should be...

“When the Constitution calls for an “actual enumeration”, does it, or does it not mean that you need to actually count real people?”

A statistical manipulation is not and never will be the “actual enumeration” that the Constitution calls for.

20 posted on 05/15/2009 11:24:38 AM PDT by allmendream ("Wealth is EARNED not distributed, so how could it be redistributed?")
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