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To: La Lydia

The ONLY point I can concede to the Gay Rights group, is the legal issues around a committed gay relationship. Issues that are automatic for a heterosexual marriage, require extraordinary (not superhuman, but more than anyone else requires) legal steps.

A Gay couple buy a house and start a business, one dies - unless a will is given, the surviving mate may find himself fighting his deceased family for half of his own home and/or business

A Gay couple have a car accident. One is seriously injured, the other member cannot give medical permission to allow emergency surgery, or in some states, even visit his mate in intensive care.

These, and similar other issues are the ONLY points I can concede. That’s why I prefer to use the term ‘Civil Union’ instead of “Marriage”, as the latter infers spiritual and religous aspects that are reserved by God, for a Man and a Woman. A “Marriage” exists to form families, that is the entire point of a “Marriage”; this point is not possible for a gay couple. IMHO, they have no more claim to a “Marriage” then they do to claim an Agricultural Excemption on their taxes - they do not meet the minimum qualifications of being capable of the potential of producing children.

I have no problem with legal equality - but “Marriage” is not the same thing as a “Civil Union”. A “Civil Union” is all that they are qualified to apply for. IMHO.


6 posted on 05/10/2009 8:47:46 PM PDT by Hodar (Who needs laws .... when this "feels" so right?)
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To: Hodar

Soooo...a “Civil Union” is a legal contract....? Right? I don’t think that’s so hard. Business partners have to do this kind of stuff too...in fact, married people have to do it, also....in WILLS. It might be a LITTLE more complicated, but I don’t think it’s that much more work.


9 posted on 05/10/2009 9:11:55 PM PDT by goodnesswins (WE have a REPUBLIC.....IF we can KEEP IT!!!)
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To: Hodar

What is wrong with a Will and a Power of Attorney?


15 posted on 05/10/2009 9:36:19 PM PDT by Lera
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To: Hodar

Why should a person have “rights” conferred upon them simply by the type of sex they wish to engage in?

Homosexuality is defined soley by the sexually perverse practices CHOSEN by the people.

You don’t confer rights on sexual choices.


16 posted on 05/10/2009 9:38:44 PM PDT by Bryan24 (When in doubt, move to the right..........)
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To: Hodar
I have no problem with legal equality - but “Marriage” is not the same thing as a “Civil Union”. A “Civil Union” is all that they are qualified to apply for. IMHO.

The whole agenda here is mass gay adoption and recruitment. They want uninhibited access to children from birth on to increase their numbers astronomically.

23 posted on 05/11/2009 2:54:01 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Hodar
That’s why I prefer to use the term ‘Civil Union’ instead of “Marriage”,...

The homo-leftists only consent to "civil unions" because it will eventually be used as a foot-in-the-door to full blown same-sex "marriage." Homo-leftists won't be content until they sully the last vestige of a moral, civil society - they have made this extremely clear in the past few years. For all intents and purposes, "civil unions" are "marriage" in all but name, giving virtually all the rights of marriage and compelling those who don't agree to act as if they do. It gives them leverage to obtain children through adoption to use as a tool to shove their agenda further through the courts.

Society shouldn't reward bad behavior, and homosexual behavior is among the worse. Disease, a complex of mental disorders, physiological damage, family dissolution are a few of the results of this "lifestyle." It is well documented that homosexual men are shockingly more promiscuous than the average normal man, and even in committed "marriage" relationships, infidelity runs rampant as an accepted part of being "gay." The increased rate of STD's and HIV infection among homosexuals in Massachusetts has posed a real concern of late - this, after more than 5 years of homosexual "marriage."

24 posted on 05/11/2009 5:09:37 AM PDT by fwdude ("...a 'centrist' ... has few principles - and those are negotiable." - Don Feder)
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To: Hodar

“A Gay couple buy a house and start a business, one dies - unless a will is given, the surviving mate may find himself fighting his deceased family for half of his own home and/or business”

“A Gay couple have a car accident. One is seriously injured, the other member cannot give medical permission to allow emergency surgery, or in some states, even visit his mate in intensive care.”

This is why you take care of this before hand. I have. I am divorced—have 3 children 2 grandkids. Everything is spelled out no matter who I am with. It is the parties responsibility to take care of this stuff before.


28 posted on 05/11/2009 6:31:59 AM PDT by waxer1 ( "The Bible is the rock on which our republic rests." -Andrew Jackson)
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To: Hodar
These are complete red herrings. Marriage is not a substitute for a prudent bit of legal paperwork. Rephrase the hypotheticals:

Two friends start a business and one dies... Go into business with a friend without a written partnership agreement or a Will? Very poor judgment on the part of the partners. Is marriage a solution to this problem? No.

A neighbor you care for has a car accident and is seriously injured... If the neighbor wanted you to be able to make medical care decisions on their behalf (and you wanted to accept such responsibility) they can give you a durable medical power of attorney. Again, should you have married your neighbor instead? The answer is obvious.

All of these types of arguments are bogus. Two adults who simply wish to live together can with minimal fuss cover all of this with a trivial bit of legal paperwork which would cost far less than the most modest "wedding". The primary "beneficiary" of "gay marriage" remains divorce lawyers.

33 posted on 05/11/2009 7:12:54 AM PDT by AustinBill (consequence is what makes our choices real)
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To: Hodar
the surviving mate
even visit his mate in intensive care

"You keep using this word. I do not think it means what you think it means" - Indigo Montoya.

41 posted on 05/11/2009 8:10:43 AM PDT by tnlibertarian
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