Bill In Congress Would Prohibit Gun Sales To Anyone Government Decides Is A “Terrorist”

KXMC TV ^ | 5/9/2009

[markomalley]

And the bill was introduced by a Republican, no less.

A new gun law being considered in Congress, if aligned with Department of Homeland Security memos labeling everyday Americans as potential “threats,” could potentially deny firearms to pro-lifers, gun-rights advocates, tax protesters, animal rights activists, and a host of others – any already on the expansive DHS watch list for potential “extremism.”

Rep. Peter King, R-N.Y., has sponsored H.R. 2159, the Denying Firearms and Explosives to Dangerous Terrorists Act of 2009, which permits the attorney general to deny transfer of a firearm to any “known or suspected dangerous terrorist.” The bill requires only that the potential firearm transferee is “appropriately suspected” of preparing for a terrorist act and that the attorney general “has a reasonable belief” that the gun might be used in connection with terrorism.

Gun rights advocates, however, object to the bill’s language, arguing that it enables the federal government to suspend a person’s Second Amendment rights without any trial or legal proof and only upon suspicion of being “dangerous.”

I don’t think anyone really has a problem with keeping weapons out of the hands of terrorists. The problems arise when it comes to who gets to define who is and is not a “terrorist.” And what standards are used. Also, since when can our rights be denied us because we might commit a crime?

According to the Department of Homeland Security attending a tea party, being a federalist, having an NRA sticker on your car or being pro-life indicates that you may be a terrorist. Or may, at least, have inclinations toward extremism and violence.

Now, I doubt that even if this law passed that we’d see a crackdown on gun-owning pro-life activists. But the problem here is that this law provides such a vague definition of who may and may exercise their 2nd amendment rights that the door is left wide open to no small amount of abuse.

Vaguely-written laws like this are extremely problematic because they put the decision as to whether or not we’ve committed a crime entirely as the discretion of cops and prosecutors. And if that’s the case, the only thing keeping us from being arrested and/or prosecuted are the whims of our law enforcement agents.

[Redcloak]

Republican ≠ conservative

[wastoute]

At this point if you don't have what you will need you haven't been paying attention. Let them pass whatever damn law they please.

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[Quiller]

And with the degree of unity which is currently being demonstrated among Constitutional Americans, conservtives will be picked off one at a time, and the government will, “Come and take them.”

[2harddrive]

This bill would levy the sentence BEFORE conviction, BEFORE trial, and even BEFORE arrest! All based upon a bureaucrat’s OPINION.

[SIDENET]

At this point if you don't have what you will need you haven't been paying attention.

I have what I need, but there's always room for more.

[wastoute]

As I have posted before, the outcome of the gummint's attempt to "come and take them" matters not to me either way. Win or lose I will never live on my knees. America: it was a good idea. It is over already. We either continue as serfs or regain our liberty. Those of us who fail to survive on the "losing end" (if it comes to that) will not have to endure what follows. We win or die. I am good with that. As my friend in Bible study likes to say, "I stayed prayed up" and I "Know Him" (see John 17:3, the "other half of 3:16). So in that spirit I say:

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[SIDENET]

Hey King...

"Up yours!!!

[apillar]

Thats ok... I don't ask the Attorney generals “permission” to purchase a firearms now. So I really couldn't care less if they designate me a terrorist or not. When I purchase gun, I deal with individuals, cash only, no names. I haven't gone through “the proper channels” since that Brady bill nonsense was passed back in the 90’s.

[PubliusMM]

Beware the unintended consequences!

Garbage legislation such as this will lead to the ruination of the nation, IMO.

[panaxanax]

“I don’t think King had Obama’s list in mind.”

You are correct. I have never heard King say anything that I didn’t agree with. He is one of the “good ones” here in NY.

For those bad-mouthing him without knowledge of his past words.... they should do some homework. This bill must be re-written and then proposed.

[PapaBear3625]

The bill sets up a new class of citizen, with reduced civil rights based upon suspicion by the Administration.

[TheZMan]

Very... well... stated.

[Piquaboy]

This reminds me, I keep forgetting to put my NRA sticker on my car.

[Paige]

And Sean acts as if King is a wonderful Conservative Republican.

[SandRat]

I AM
The Freedom-loving,
GOD Worshiping,
Pro-Life,
Constitution-Supporting,
Military Veteran,
Patriot,
HOMELAND SECURITY
WARNED YOU ABOUT!

[markomalley]

[markomalley]

And Sean acts as if King is a wonderful Conservative Republican.

I certainly hope that Hannity is not your barometer of conservative orthodoxy!

[gundog]

"I decide who is a Jew terrorist." -Joseph Goebbels Rahm Emmanuel

[Clint Williams]

Anyone who wants to buy a gun will soon be by definition a potential terrorist.

[Clint Williams]

King should be impeached for violating his oath or tried for treason.

Ain't gonna happen. You've lost control of your nation.

America -- a great idea, didn't last.