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Bristol Palin Reverses, Says Abstinence Is a 'Realistic' Choice for Teens
FOXNews.com ^ | Wednesday, May 06, 2009 | FOXNews.com

Posted on 05/07/2009 3:43:37 AM PDT by thomas16

Unwed teen mom Bristol Palin did a turnabout Wednesday with her views on teen sex, saying abstinence is a realistic option for teenagers.....Johnston said he and Palin had used condoms but occasionally had slipped up. That's how Tripp was conceived, he said.

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To: pnh102

Having dealt with this issue as a mother, here is some advice to add to your deterrent factor, which works really well until they meet someone the can’t resist and all their friends are doing it.

The reason there is a problem with teenagers getting pregnant is not a lack of understanding. It is us trying to pretend they are still children at this age.

God designed us to come into sexual maturity in our teens. All major religions recognize the age of 13 as symbolic to entering adulthood. In every culture but our own, and in the last hundred years or less, girls and boys married off in their teens.

Now, we consider people too young to make good decisions, treat them like unknowing ignorant kids, and tell them to deny exactly how they were created to be. We expect nothing of them, and they are more than happy to oblige. We tell them they can’t know what love is, can’t possibly make a decision, and not to get serious until they are 30. This sends a confusing message to them.

The Virgin Mary gave birth at 15. That was Gods decision about age. Many will say it is incomparable, things were different then. Yes, they were. Today kids have more advantages, information, and knowledge than at any time in history. They would be more well equipped if we would stop expecting nothing from them and start teaching them morals, responsibility, and stop indulging them at every turn.

My oldest is about to be married. He will be 22 in July. His fiancee is 20. He wanted to marry sooner, but they have only been together now 1 year, so his courtship didn’t commence until he was 20. He has only had 2 girlfriends and both were too immature to handle his view of marriage, so they did not work out and he knew that relatively soon.

My middle son is going into seminary next fall. This is a moot point for him. He has not dated, as in our family dating is for locating a spouse, not a hobby. He does not plan to date, as he is sure of his calling, although he will attend prom with a friend next year.

My youngest is 15. He is not ready to find a spouse yet, therefore has not yet begun dating. He is not sure if he is called to religous life or married life so has opted not to date yet.

You cannot teach abstinence until you teach what dating is actually for. It is not a sport, a social outlet, or a right of passage. It is something to help you discern the married life.

PS. Our sex education took place at home using Theology of the Body, Humane Vitae, First comes Love (by Scott Hahn) Scripture, and a frank Q and A session. I opted them out of public school sex ed because they cannot teach the why’s of sex, only the how’s. Seperating them reduces sex to a hobby and removes the purpose from the act. Would we teach our children how to do drugs safely, just in case they could not control themselves and just HAD to do drugs? It seems a silly concept to me.


21 posted on 05/07/2009 4:18:35 AM PDT by wombtotomb ( ITS NOT ABOUT RIGHT VERSUS LEFT, ITS ABOUT RIGHT VERSES WRONG!)
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To: thomas16

I took offense to the glib way Fox reported this.


22 posted on 05/07/2009 4:18:41 AM PDT by Friendofgeorge (I LOVE SARAH PALIN)
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To: ottbmare
She suddenly decided abstinence is the way for teens to go when she found out there is opportunity in it. She did not always advocate abstinence.

Teenage mothers aren't getting attention like Bristol is. She's glamorizing teenage pregnancy. They'll say look at her she has this beautiful baby, she's dressed well, looks great, and now she is a born again virgin. I'll do what I want now, if things don't turn out well, everyone will excuse me and speak adoringly of me and hold me out as a role model for their daughters. What's the big deal? Things didn't turn out bad for her. I don't say condemn her, but to hold her out as a role model is beyond ridiculous.

23 posted on 05/07/2009 4:23:35 AM PDT by thomas16
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To: pnh102
For most people, what counts as good experience in any subject is often the result of bad judgment. Regardless of Miss Palin's pregnancy and birth, she is still 100% correct that abstaining from all sexual activity is the only guaranteed method of avoid all consequences of sexual activity.

Bingo. I don't know about you, but I did a lot of stupid things when I was 18. And the stupidity continued until I graduated from college. The real world had a positive, sobering effect on me.

24 posted on 05/07/2009 4:24:20 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (When you find "Sola Scriptura" in the Bible, let me know)
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To: thomas16

Wait and see, let the bloom come off the rose for the next few years. The point is that she will stick by her principles and it will be fun to watch them squirm.


25 posted on 05/07/2009 4:25:18 AM PDT by toddausauras
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To: thomas16

Yes.

She’s greatly complicated her, her child’s and her family’s life.

She’s young and she’s learning. The hard way.


26 posted on 05/07/2009 4:27:44 AM PDT by Nickname
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To: wombtotomb
Now, we consider people too young to make good decisions, treat them like unknowing ignorant kids, and tell them to deny exactly how they were created to be. We expect nothing of them, and they are more than happy to oblige. We tell them they can’t know what love is, can’t possibly make a decision, and not to get serious until they are 30. This sends a confusing message to them.

Great point and all-around great post. As far as I'm concerned, perpetual gov't schooling is the leading cause of perpetual immaturity.

27 posted on 05/07/2009 4:29:52 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (When you find "Sola Scriptura" in the Bible, let me know)
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To: Anti-Bubba182

I think that saying nothing is better in that regard.

Like it or not, she and the ex-boyfriend are forever tied together through the child.

The less that’s said by either of them to create friction, the better.

All of this is going to be available to him and I cringe at that thought.


28 posted on 05/07/2009 4:30:38 AM PDT by Nickname
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To: Aquinasfan

A-men!


29 posted on 05/07/2009 4:30:57 AM PDT by wombtotomb (ITS NOT ABOUT RIGHT VS. LEFT, ITS ABOUT RIGHT VS. WRONG!)
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To: thomas16

She was taught great family values!!!! I agree with you!!!


30 posted on 05/07/2009 4:31:14 AM PDT by org.whodat (Auto unions bad: Machinists union good=Hypocrisy)
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To: thomas16

And the “Bristol Stomp” continues. Faux News-Obama keeps its reporting standard.


31 posted on 05/07/2009 4:32:18 AM PDT by Old Sarge (Remember, remember, the Fourth of November, the Socialist treason and plot...)
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To: thomas16

ditto!!!!


32 posted on 05/07/2009 4:32:50 AM PDT by org.whodat (Auto unions bad: Machinists union good=Hypocrisy)
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To: Nickname

Saying nothing has allowed the radical left to set the agenda. It hasn’t worked out so well for conservatives.

So perhaps we should stick up for our beliefs and support a good family and a young woman who admits her mistakes.


33 posted on 05/07/2009 4:33:25 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: thomas16

Young minds just don’t know what they think. I guess thats why we have parents.


34 posted on 05/07/2009 4:33:32 AM PDT by traderrob6
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To: thomas16; SolidWood; euram; SoCalPol; Al B.; mnehring; Sarah Barracuda; Jeff Head; All
Barry will wipe the floor with Saint Sarah

You know, over the past few days, it has become readily apparent that every GOP hack who fancies himself a 2012 candidate has sent his minions on to this board to try and knock Sarah Palin down, using stories like this in conjunction with Alinsky's Rule #4 to try and paint her as a moral hypocrite. It's really getting old fast!

Romney's people are here...Sanford's people are here...Perry's people are here...Newt's people are here...and Huckabee's people are here.

So whose camp are you in? Or are you one of those holier-than-thou front-pew sitters who simply want to cast their stones, pass judgment, and condemn Bristol Palin to everlasting damnation because she had a child out of wedlock, never mind the fact that she chose not to abort him or put him up for adoption, but to keep and care for him herself?

So what is your problem with Sarah Palin, whose hardcore Conservative record in Alaska makes the records of all of those other RINOs pale in comparison?

It's bad enough when Axelrod's trolls do it, but it really sticks in my craw when Republicans do it to their own.

NOTE: Alinsky's Rule #4: "Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules. You can kill them with this, for they can no more obey their own rules than the Christian church can live up to Christianity."

35 posted on 05/07/2009 4:34:21 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin is a smart missile aimed at the heart of the left!)
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To: org.whodat

What’s next, Keith Richards is going to come out and say you shouldn’t do drugs?


36 posted on 05/07/2009 4:35:23 AM PDT by dfwgator (1996 2006 2008 - Good Things Come in Threes)
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To: Nickname
Opportunism plain and simple the Paln's will not go away - So all of you who think she's doing this for altruistic reasons please read:

Maria Dolgetta, a spokeswoman for the foundation, said Palin will be paid for her appearance but declined to disclose how much.

http://newsminer.com/news/2009/may/05/bristol-palin-promotes-teen-pregnancy-prevention/

37 posted on 05/07/2009 4:36:47 AM PDT by thomas16
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To: thomas16

“Teenage mothers aren’t getting attention like Bristol is. She’s glamorizing teenage pregnancy”

Why is she getting the attention? Because the left is using this young woman and her baby to attack Bristols mother.

Its far better for her to come out and tell other young girls to wait than to keep her mouth shut and let them think everything is ok.

Afterall, someone has to tell young women to keep their legs closed.


38 posted on 05/07/2009 4:37:22 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: thomas16

Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from exercising bad judgement.


39 posted on 05/07/2009 4:37:32 AM PDT by magslinger (The first dog has papers but the President doesn't. How interesting!-cubsfanconswoman)
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To: Nickname
I think that saying nothing is better in that regard. Like it or not, she and the ex-boyfriend are forever tied together through the child. The less that’s said by either of them to create friction, the better.

I agree. When you are already in a hole, stop digging.

40 posted on 05/07/2009 4:37:38 AM PDT by dfwgator (1996 2006 2008 - Good Things Come in Threes)
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