May 2009: Democrats make it happen.
9 years from utterly insane crazy joke to law.
Posted on 05/07/2009 3:21:16 AM PDT by Man50D
WASHINGTON – In its first day, hundreds of Americans have taken advantage of a unique campaign to sound off in opposition to new hate-crimes legislation on the fast track of the U.S. Senate by overnighting letters to individual senators at a significantly reduced price.
Janet Porter, WND columnist and president of Faith2Action, organized the effort to utilize reduced rates for individual letters delivered by Fed Ex to individual senators in bulk quantities. Overnight letters not only have more impact, but can be assured of delivery in time to impact pending legislation.
(Excerpt) Read more at worldnetdaily.com ...
I have never believed in hate crime bills anyway...every crime is a hate crime. Also, I don’t see why the Dems would not define ‘sexual orientation’ as excluding pedophiles...stupid is as stupid does.
The Democrat party is the party of perversion and pedophilia. Look at this guy Wade Sanders who was Kerry’s Butt Buddy, convicted of being a consumer of child pornography. Even worse, look at all the libs who say the guy should not get any jail time. Jimmy Carter and nearly every other Democrat.
Just unbelievable.
Our senate, congress and of course the courts don’t give a damn what the people think or want.
This is a weird article because H.R. 1913 only relates to extra penalties for violence. Now, I don’t agree with that, of course,violent crimes can be handles under current law as assault, murder or even terrorism.
But I can’t find any language that gives protection to anyone who has sex with kids.
“Also, I don’t see why the Dems would not define ‘sexual orientation’ as excluding pedophiles...stupid is as stupid does.”
Because the radical gay community wrote the bill. The same people who push for public bath (orgy) houses and reducing the age of consent to 12 yrs old.
“But I can’t find any language that gives protection to anyone who has sex with kids”
It has to do with their refusal to define the term “sexual orientation” which opens it up for anything.
It also deals with using the APA definition of alternative sexual preferences. The APA has tried, and no doubt will try again, to remove pedophilia from its list of disorders...in other words, to make it into a normal lifestyle...like riding the buck.
So does this mean that if a guy is rubbing himself against my wife in the subway (frotteurism), and I punch him out, I am guilty of a hate crime?
(Those French have a word for everything.)
The notion that pedophiles are deserving of enhanced protection when they are victims of crime simply illustrates how ridiculous this whole notion of “hate crimes” is. Where is this leading?
I punch him out, I am guilty of a hate crime?
Probably yes and if he is 65 or older it would be a felony.
In the end, the Dems will have to exclude pedophiles or it never makes it through the Senate which would be fine with me. I don’t believe in hate crimes...as I stated before, every crime is a hate crime. One crime is not more deserving of punishment than another...if I kill you for money or I kill you because you are black,white,gay, or even Christian you are still dead. All lives are of equal value, there are sufficient laws on the books to punish criminals...hate crime legislation is not needed.
What is needed is new criminal laws to deal with pedophiles and/or child rapists. I know of a case in Pennsylvania where the guilty party (Boy scout leader) raped his young cousin from the age of 5 until the boy was 11...who knows how many kids he raped and/or molested. He was caught in the act of fondling a neighbor’s child. The Dad did his best to kill the offender, but was actually arrested at first for assault and attempted murder; the charges were later dropped. The pedophile did four years as a first offender. Now that’s just plain wrong. It was the first time he was caught-not the first time he did this. I don’t know how it is now, but in Pennsylvania at the time, there were no requirements to register sex offenders...this guy will no doubt do it again.
The bill does not single out pedophiles as a protected group...it says that a crime against a person because of sexual orientation is a hate crime...sexual orientation is not defined which is the problem...as it could be used to protect pedophiles in the real world.
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“But I can’t find any language that gives protection to anyone who has sex with kids”
Aha. But it still only deals with violence. Its never been legal to beat somebody up for being attracted to kids.
If you catch them touching a kid I doubt this law would punish you for using force to rescue the child.
But for other reasons I object to hate crime legislation in general.
Here’s the full text of the bill (only 4 pages or so)
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=h111-1913
On the surface its purpose is to help Local, State, Tribe governments prosecute crimes where the motive for the crime was the victim’s “race, color, religion, national origin, gender, sexual orientation, gender identity, or disability”.
On the service the help takes the form of grants and additional personnel to help the subordinate governments prosecute a case. But also there’s the following: “No prosecution of any offense described in this subsection may be undertaken by the United States except ...”. That means that the Federal Government can actually be the prosecutor.
Four reasons are given for the Federal Government stepping into a case. The first three have the lower-level government (e.g. Local) making the call. The final reason says that the Federal Government can step in if it feels like it.
Does the bill protect pedophiles? Given the text of the bill, I’d like someone to explain how it does that.
Because the radical gay community wrote the bill. The same people who push for public bath (orgy) houses and reducing the age of consent to 12 yrs old.Wow, I have been away from the states for more than a decade... I NEVER thought I would hear something like that in my lifetime.. (never heard of the public bath situation.. but I could believe it.. but 12yo!? damn)
Pedophilia is a sexual orientation.
“Aha. But it still only deals with violence. “
Things change, hate speech is prosecuted in other countries such as England and Canada. The laws in those countries are the model for this one.
“If you catch them touching a kid I doubt this law would punish you for using force to rescue the child.”
10 years ago I doubt most people thought gay marriage would be a reality.
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