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Sacrifice The Creditors [securities fraud--where is the SEC?]
Forbes ^ | May 6, 2009 | Matthew Craft

Posted on 05/06/2009 12:32:51 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

GM, Harrah's and other deeply-indebted companies want bondholders to take the pain.

It isn’t enough that bondholders saw the value of their investments plummet over the past year. A chorus of executives, private equity investors and even President Obama are asking them to sacrifice so that companies such as General Motors, Harrah’s Entertainment and Unisys can survive.

While public attention focused on the effort by General Motors ( GM - news - people ) and the Obama Administration's attempts to get bondholders to swap debt for a 10% stake in GM over recent weeks, manufacturer Rexnord and Hexion Specialty Chemicals came to agreements with their bond owners to wipe out some of their debts. Faced with declining revenues more debt-heavy companies have turned to their creditors for a way out this year. The rating agency Standard & Poor’s counts 28 such cases of borrowers agreeing to such debt exchanges so far, up from 15 last year and 4 in 2007.

(Excerpt) Read more at forbes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bailouts; bondholders; gm; obama; securitiesfraud

1 posted on 05/06/2009 12:32:51 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: Jim Robinson

Nobody other than the Fed will ever loan GM a dime.


2 posted on 05/06/2009 12:33:40 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Jim Robinson

Will the Obama admin. force us now to buy GM or Chrysler products by not allowing foreign imports or buying Fords?


3 posted on 05/06/2009 12:41:26 PM PDT by SkyDancer ('Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not..' ~ Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Anti-Bubba182
"Obama Administration's attempts to get bondholders to swap debt for a 10% stake in GM over recent weeks"

Yup. The president attempts to sell the bondholders on taking a huge haircut while converting their debt for equity and all the while he's also planning on wiping out the shareholders by selling billions of new shares:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2245096/posts

The corrupt SOB should see prison time for this triple scalping. And he would if he was a private sector exec under scrutiny of the SEC.

4 posted on 05/06/2009 12:41:57 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: Jim Robinson

See the USSA in a Chavazrolet, before Obama gives it all away!


5 posted on 05/06/2009 12:42:54 PM PDT by Islander7 (If you want to anger conservatives, lie to them. If you want to anger liberals, tell them the truth.)
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To: Jim Robinson

What better way to shut down capitalism than slaughter those that invested to help a business. Why invest in that world? If you are successful we will tax you double and if not, you’ll get screwed double.


6 posted on 05/06/2009 12:44:31 PM PDT by BipolarBob (I drink therefore I am.)
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To: Jim Robinson

I suspect the corporate bond market will be dead for a long time.
Who would buy corporate bonds for the foreseeable future when they know a company can wiggle out of the contract?


7 posted on 05/06/2009 12:47:40 PM PDT by Maine Mariner
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To: Jim Robinson

We’re screwed. We are so screwed.


8 posted on 05/06/2009 12:51:52 PM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (AGWT is very robust with respect to data. All observations confirm it at the 100% confidence level.)
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To: SkyDancer

*******Will the Obama admin. force us now to buy GM or Chrysler products by not allowing foreign imports or buying Fords?**********

I have been a GM owner for 45 years, The only way I would buy another GM product is to be forced to.


9 posted on 05/06/2009 12:53:22 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: Jim Robinson

Dont’cha know there’s a new regime running things these days... they’re just looking out for our ‘common good’.. ignore the brown shirts. ‘=)


10 posted on 05/06/2009 1:00:00 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed.)
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To: Venturer; Mrs. B.S. Roberts

I’m sadly with you. Learned to drive on my Dad’s ‘49 Olds 88 and have driven and owned NOTHING but an OLDS since. GM cars have treated me wonderfully all the way to the ‘92 Olds wagon I still drive.
It will take a VERY large gun, aimed at a sensitive part of me before I will even CONSIDER another GM product. I just scratched Chrysler off the possible list and am left with Ford. Of course, there are a LOT of AMERICAN made cars to choose from...just with ‘foreign’ names.


11 posted on 05/06/2009 1:11:14 PM PDT by CaptainAmiigaf (NY Times: We print the news as it fits our views)
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To: Anti-Bubba182

The Tarp banks will be required to loan money to GM. That’s the way it works.


12 posted on 05/06/2009 1:16:38 PM PDT by Oldexpat
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To: Maine Mariner
I might be wrong (I'm not a lawyer but do have experience with corporate debt), but I think the story for GM and Chrysler won't be over until the bankruptcy judge rules.

And any agreements, contracts, or settlements which were inked under duress are not binding under current law and any so entered into before the judge rules will be overturned or tossed out.

13 posted on 05/06/2009 1:39:26 PM PDT by SonOfDarkSkies
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To: SkyDancer

Buying a Ford now makes no difference as it still sends money to the UAW union.

Never will I ever again buy any car/truck made by the UAW union.


14 posted on 05/06/2009 3:36:17 PM PDT by Lera
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To: Lera

I drive an Acura ... love it ...


15 posted on 05/06/2009 3:47:06 PM PDT by SkyDancer ('Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not..' ~ Thomas Jefferson)
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