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Obama to visit Germany to find concentration camp "Uncle Charlie" liberated
Der Spiegel ^ | 05.06.2009 | George Schmitz

Posted on 05/06/2009 10:42:33 AM PDT by ameribbean expat

http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/0,1518,623130,00.html#ref=nlint

On Tuesday, the news became public that a White House advance team is currently in the eastern German city of Dresden, where they are looking for possible accommodations for the president. In addition to a short visit to the city on the Elbe River, the president is also intending to visit the memorial at the former Nazi concentration camp Buchenwald.

Obama's great-uncle, Charlie Payne, served in the 89th Infantry Division during World War II and participated in the liberation of Ohrdruf, a forced labor camp that was a satellite camp of Buchenwald.

But see: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/elections/2008/05/27/recollection-of-obama-familys-service-missing-key-details/

(Excerpt) Read more at spiegel.de ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Germany; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bho44; bhogermany; bhovisit; fraudbama
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1 posted on 05/06/2009 10:42:33 AM PDT by ameribbean expat
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To: ameribbean expat

Maybe he is seeing if he can sublease the place?


2 posted on 05/06/2009 10:46:03 AM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: ameribbean expat

Wasn’t this the old, weird Uncle Charley that just lived in the attic alone with his PTSD?


3 posted on 05/06/2009 10:46:32 AM PDT by N. Theknow (Kennedys: Can't fly, can't ski, can't drive, can't skipper a boat, but they know what's best.)
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To: ameribbean expat

“Uncle Charlie”? VC?


4 posted on 05/06/2009 10:51:34 AM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: ameribbean expat

Was he anything like the Uncle Charlie in Hitchcock’s Shadow of A Doubt? ;)

I love the hypocrisy. Send out superficial symbolic messages that he cares about Israel, while behind the scenes he stabs Israel in the back.


5 posted on 05/06/2009 10:52:55 AM PDT by deannadurbin
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To: ameribbean expat

What? Is he looking for tips?


6 posted on 05/06/2009 10:57:53 AM PDT by wilco200 (11/4/08 - The Day America Jumped the Shark)
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To: ameribbean expat

What the heck, so this guy is going to travel at taxpayer expense (no doubt costing at least several hundred thousand dollars) for a personal trip? He couldn’t do this on his own dime before he became president? Shameless.


7 posted on 05/06/2009 10:58:48 AM PDT by Azzurri
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Obama is so ignorant on history he said his uncle had been saying for years he liberated Auschwitz.. and Obama repeated that story in front of 50 million people.. he had no idea where the world’s most famous death camp was located

I knew at 10 years old Auschwitz was never liberated by the American Army


8 posted on 05/06/2009 10:59:02 AM PDT by Lib-Lickers 2
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Uncle Charlie: “Typical white person”.


9 posted on 05/06/2009 11:00:00 AM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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Send out superficial symbolic messages that he cares about Israel

You nailed. Everything he does is symbolic for public consumption but behind the scenes he goes in the opposite direction.... on everything. He's quite the "hoodwinker". Knows how to play the shell game very well.

10 posted on 05/06/2009 11:01:01 AM PDT by jersey117
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To: ameribbean expat

Uncle Charley is slang among some radio types for the FCC.
Maybe he is going to study East German methods of speech control?


11 posted on 05/06/2009 11:05:09 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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He can find his old uncles place but not his own birth certificate.


12 posted on 05/06/2009 11:11:53 AM PDT by devistate one four (I will run to the sound of gunfire! TET68)
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Will be going with Steve and his three sons ( I remember Chip and Ernie)


13 posted on 05/06/2009 11:12:09 AM PDT by shadeaud ("If you can't beat them, arrange to have them beaten." -- George Carlin st)
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To: ameribbean expat

What? Another vacation for King Obama?


14 posted on 05/06/2009 11:16:42 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (Hey, Obama! Where's my check?)
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According to:

http://www.scrapbookpages.com/Buchenwald/Liberation0.html

The Buchenwald concentration camp was liberated on April 11, 1945 by four soldiers in the Sixth Armored Division of the US Third Army, commanded by General George S. Patton. Just before the Americans arrived, the camp had already been taken over by the Communist prisoners who had killed some of the guards and forced the rest to flee into the nearby woods.

Pfc. James Hoyt was driving the M8 armoured vehicle which brought Capt. Frederic Keffer, Tech. Sgt. Herbert Gottschalk and Sgt. Harry Ward to the Buchenwald camp that day.

The following quote is from a CNN news story on the occasion of the death of James Hoyt on August 14, 2008 at the age of 83:

According to military records, Keffer was the officer in command of the six-wheeled armored vehicle that day. The soldiers were part of the Army’s 6th Armored Division near the camp when about 15 SS troopers were captured. It was mid-afternoon.

“At the same time, a group of Russians just escaped from the concentration camp, burst out of the woods attempting to attack the SS men. The Russians were restrained and interrogated,” Maj. Gen. R.W. Grow, the American commander of the 6th Armored Division, wrote in a 1975 letter about the Buchenwald liberation.

Keffer was ordered to take his three comrades and two of the Russian prisoners “as guides to investigate, report and rejoin as rapidly as possible.”

“I took this side journey of about 3 km away from our main force because we kept encountering SS guards and prison inmates, and the latter told us of the large camp to the south,” Keffer wrote in a letter around the 30th anniversary of the liberation.

“We had been told by our intelligence that we might overrun a large prison camp, but we — or at least I — had no idea of either the gigantic size of the camp or of the full extent of the incredible brutality.”

Keffer and Gottschalk, who spoke German, entered the camp through a hole in an electric barbed wire fence. Hoyt and Ward initially stayed at the vehicle.

“We were tumultuously greeted by what I was told were 21,000 men, and what an incredible greeting that was,” Keffer wrote. “I was picked up by arms and legs, thrown into the air, caught, thrown again, caught, thrown, etc., until I had to stop it. I was getting dizzy.

“How the men found such a surge of strength in their emaciated condition was one of those bodily wonders in which the spirit sometimes overcomes all weaknesses of the flesh. My, but it was a great day!”

Keffer said the prisoners, through an underground system, had already taken control of the camp. The four soldiers notified division command to get medical help and food to the prisoners as soon as possible.

The 6th Armored Division newspaper “Armored Attacker” ran a headline on May 5, 1945: “Four 9th AIB Doughs Find Buchenwald.” The article described the discovery as “the worst concentration camp yet to be uncovered by west wall troops.”

Hoyt, a Bronze Star recipient and veteran of the Battle of the Bulge, was the last of the four original liberators to die.

Seems the big O is creating his own reality again


15 posted on 05/06/2009 11:23:16 AM PDT by exbrit
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16 posted on 05/06/2009 11:24:55 AM PDT by TornadoAlley3 (Obama is everything Oklahoma is not.)
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On the morning of April 12, 1945, soldiers of the 80th Infantry Division arrived in the nearby town of Weimar and found it deserted except for some of the liberated prisoners roaming around. The townspeople were cowering in fear inside their bomb-damaged homes.

Also from the same source as my last post.


17 posted on 05/06/2009 11:26:42 AM PDT by exbrit
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To be fair 89th Infantry did acknowledge Charles Payne was in the unit that liberated the work camp Ohrdruf. For those that entered the gates of hell to liberate the prisoners from all of the Nazi atrocities, thank you


18 posted on 05/06/2009 11:48:01 AM PDT by exbrit
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To: ameribbean expat

Ohrdruf was also home to the 39th Guards Motorized Rifle Division, 8th Guards Army. Maybe Osama is going to pay homage to his Soviet heroes.


19 posted on 05/06/2009 12:16:19 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Sprechen sie Austrian?)
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To: N. Theknow
Wasn’t this the old, weird Uncle Charley that just lived in the attic alone with his PTSD?

But, the bat in the attic he remembered from his youth. Who was "unbatty" enough to retire from the University of Chicago as asst director of the libraries. The batty old uncle of BHO's youth was a neighbor in Chicago, even worked for one of Barry's employers. But we're to believe their paths never crossed since his youth.

20 posted on 05/06/2009 12:37:09 PM PDT by SJackson (right of the mortgagee to insist upon full payment ... the essence of a mortgage, Justice Brandeis)
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