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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

Would it were so...but in general business does not wish to be burdened with health care and will be only to happy to turn it over to the government. This is a self inflicted wound...with poorly written and poorly enforced trade agreements-not to mention tax benefits for offshoring companies, millions of good jobs with benefits have been lost-sent overseas. Business must cut cost to the bone in order to compete globally (why is this such a good thing?). As for small business, many can’t even afford to insure themselves much less their employees. The unemployed and the underemployed do not have access to health care...thus not only will Americans support national health, they will demand it.

The greedy HMO’s and private insurance companies have played a role in this also. People are already experiencing rationing of health care in their private and employee based insurance;Personally, I have to fight for everything these days...automatic turn down and then an appeals process.Also, simple pre-existing conditions such as high blood pressure often mean people can not buy private health insurance policies-due to affordability issues and because the insurance companies will not write such a policy at any cost. What if you have had a serious illness?

Also, many workers being laid off are in their mid to late 40’s and 50’s-too young for medicare and to old for affordable health insurance purchased on an individual basis...it’s a giant mess. How’s that free trade working out for you and our country? Not to well in my estimation. I have long warned on this forum that free trade would lead to socialism because of the destruction of American jobs...national health is only the first program...others will follow-sadly.


4 posted on 05/06/2009 3:53:52 AM PDT by nyconse (When you buy something, make an investment in your country. Buy Amrican or bye bye America)
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To: nyconse

Free Trade is the antithesis of Socialism, troll.

Nationalized medicine is socialistic medicine.

Industries protected by tariffs or bailouts are socialized industries.

If you ‘help out’ a business that can’t compete, if you allow Government to choose winners and losers in the marketplace, you just put a tax on everyone who buys the sort of products that business produces.


5 posted on 05/06/2009 4:02:40 AM PDT by agere_contra
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To: nyconse
Are you sure you don't want to join Specter? You really seem to more of a moderate than a Conservative.

You can open your arms and embrace this garbage all you like, or demagogue the greatest health care system in the World for socialist selective health care rationing like they have in Kanada and Britain.

Either way, you get protectionism and Collective Socialism, which seems to suit you well. As for me, I am still a dedicated free American and I will fight this to the bitter end.

8 posted on 05/06/2009 4:42:58 AM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (Give me LIBERTY or give me an M-24A2!)
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To: nyconse
The unemployed and the underemployed do not have access to health care...thus not only will Americans support national health, they will demand it.

Demand all you want. You'll be lucky to find a nurse practicioner or physician assistant. Maybe a foreign doctor will see you.

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17 posted on 05/06/2009 6:03:54 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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