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Schwarzenegger says 'time for debate' on legal marijuana
Sacramento Bee ^ | , May. 5, 2009 | Kevin Yamamura

Posted on 05/05/2009 2:27:27 PM PDT by calcowgirl

Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger said Tuesday it's time for California to study whether to legalize and tax marijuana for recreational use, though he's not yet advocating for such a change.

The governor was asked about a recent Field Poll showing that 56 percent of registered voters support legalizing and taxing marijuana to raise revenues for cash-strapped California. Assemblyman Tom Ammiano, D-San Francisco, has proposed legislation that would legalize the drug for recreational use, rather than just medical purposes.

"Well, I think it's not time for that, but I think it's time for a debate," Schwarzenegger said. "I think all of those ideas of creating extra revenues, I'm always for an open debate on it. And I think we ought to study very carefully what other countries are doing that have legalized marijuana and other drugs, what effect did it have on those countries?"

He said his native Austria is revisiting some of its marijuana laws, for instance. The Austrian Parliament last year authorized medical marijuana.

"It could very well be that everyone is happy with that decision and then we could move to that," Schwarzenegger said of other nations' legalization policies. "If not, we shouldn't do it. But just because of raising revenues ... we have to be careful not to make mistakes at the same time.

(Excerpt) Read more at sacbee.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: cannabis; controlledsubstances; drugs; grass; haroldandkumar; leroyvillbeback; libertarian; marijuana; maryjane; pot; reefer; schwarzenegger; stoner; whitecastle; wod
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To: messierhunter
So you think people have no right to be free from narcotic fumes smoked by others then... because that was the thrust of my argument, not the personal attack.

Did you miss this:

I also support open container and public drunkenness laws, and would do the same with legal marijuana.

?

121 posted on 05/06/2009 8:00:36 AM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (Happiness is a choice!)
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To: Trailerpark Badass
I am very comfortable with separate regulations vis a vis public versus private spaces

Your logic is inconsistent with your claimed beliefs.

Alcohol is, in most jurisdictions, illegal to consume in public

It's generally not illegal to get drunk in a college apartment, and in my college it wasn't even against the rules for those over 21. Your example does not apply.
122 posted on 05/06/2009 8:00:39 AM PDT by messierhunter
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It’s also nice to know you think it should be legal to smoke pot wherever it’s legal to get drunk. This is exactly the kind of nonsense I complained about to begin with. You can’t get someone drunk by being around them while you’re drinking.


123 posted on 05/06/2009 8:02:15 AM PDT by messierhunter
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To: messierhunter
And go ahead and try to get me banned, I don't care.

LOL, why would I do that? You're hilarious.

If I had known FR was so full of pot heads I never would signed up.

You know, some people think pot should be legal, and they don't even smoke.

I've had the real life druggies threaten my life enough already, I have no desire to set off online drug heads too.

You have an active fantasy life.

That can be either good or bad. Keep an eye on it.

124 posted on 05/06/2009 8:03:54 AM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (Happiness is a choice!)
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To: Trailerpark Badass
Did you miss this: I also support open container and public drunkenness laws

Has nothing to do with a right not to ingest such fumes. You can drink in "public places" just not out in the open. Ironically, it'd be easier to avoid high concentrations of pot smoke if it were only allowed out in the open than it would in the "private" places where drinking is allowed. Nothing you said indicates a belief that people should have a right to demand others not smoke pot around them.
125 posted on 05/06/2009 8:05:23 AM PDT by messierhunter
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To: Trailerpark Badass
You have an active fantasy life.

The death threat made on my life was anything but fantasy.
126 posted on 05/06/2009 8:07:21 AM PDT by messierhunter
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To: messierhunter
Your logic is inconsistent with your claimed beliefs.

hardly. though your grasp of "logic" appears somewhat tenuous.

It's generally not illegal to get drunk in a college apartment, and in my college it wasn't even against the rules for those over 21. Your example does not apply.

Every college DORM I am aware of it is. Nice dodge, though.

127 posted on 05/06/2009 8:07:23 AM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (Happiness is a choice!)
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To: Trailerpark Badass
Every college DORM I am aware of it is. Nice dodge, though.

Not in mine it wasn't. Technically they were "on-campus apartments" with individual bedrooms though. Nice try.
128 posted on 05/06/2009 8:08:44 AM PDT by messierhunter
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To: messierhunter
You're tedious...and tendentious.

Have a joint, it would help.

129 posted on 05/06/2009 8:09:16 AM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (Happiness is a choice!)
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To: Trailerpark Badass
though your grasp of "logic" appears somewhat tenuous

Says the "trailerpark badass" who thinks he knows more about my college's rules than I do.
130 posted on 05/06/2009 8:09:36 AM PDT by messierhunter
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To: Responsibility2nd
If we were taliking about abortion then your “personal choice” beliefs would identify you as a ....

wait for it.....

liberal.

What about my personal choice to own a gun? Or an SUV? Or to have my own medical insurance, not the government's Obamacare? Or drink alcohol? Or eat steak?

In most things, even dangerous things, conservatives favor personal choice. (Abortion being the exception, which, conveniently enough, you zeroed *right* in on.)

Even in well regulated freedom, people are free to choose things that are bad or stupid. Otherwise it's not really freedom. It's just getting others to obey at gunpoint. Certainly, that's what the liberals want. Enforced obedience to their moral code. It shouldn't be our aim, though.

131 posted on 05/06/2009 8:10:22 AM PDT by Steel Wolf (Oh, well. Back to the drawing board....)
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To: Trailerpark Badass
Have a joint, it would help.

Thanks for this brilliant display of blatant disrespect for my rights and wishes not to ingest such fumes. I'm done trying to get this intolerant pot head to recognize my breathing rights. Have a nice day.
132 posted on 05/06/2009 8:12:22 AM PDT by messierhunter
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To: messierhunter
Says the "trailerpark badass" who thinks he knows more about my college's rules than I do.

LOL, I've seen displayed here a real-world manifestation of the of old bromide about arguing with a moron.

133 posted on 05/06/2009 8:13:24 AM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (Happiness is a choice!)
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To: A CA Guy

I haven’t touched the stuff since 1977 and think using it is stupid. It is also hard for me to take seriously a government that considers alcohol legal and pot illegal. Alcohol is much worse.

I firmly think Pot should be legal. I think individuals should be able to grow it in their gardens right next tot the tomatos if theys choose.

It is one thing i agree with libertarians on. Let the gov tax it like tobacco, instead of spending billions arresting and incarcerating private citizens for something so trivial. Not to mention the general perceived lack of freedom created by the private property confiscation laws and other tools used by the police force, as seen in “Cops”.

I would like the government to leave us the he!! alone!

I applaud Arnold.

I also think that if marijuana is legalized, it is going to create some new problems.


134 posted on 05/06/2009 8:16:22 AM PDT by RobRoy (I'm wearing a cast on one hand. My spelling and clarity may not be up to par right now.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

See my post 134. I should have responded to your 5.


135 posted on 05/06/2009 8:17:57 AM PDT by RobRoy (I'm wearing a cast on one hand. My spelling and clarity may not be up to par right now.)
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To: Trailerpark Badass
Ad hominem = FAIL.
136 posted on 05/06/2009 8:18:30 AM PDT by messierhunter
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To: Retired Greyhound

>>Smoking pot is stupid, but it should be legal nevertheless.<<

I concur. That sums up my perspective.


137 posted on 05/06/2009 8:18:49 AM PDT by RobRoy (I'm wearing a cast on one hand. My spelling and clarity may not be up to par right now.)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

Put an Irish pub on one street and a “pothouse” on another and see which one has the most fist fights, ambulances, etc.


138 posted on 05/06/2009 8:20:02 AM PDT by RobRoy (I'm wearing a cast on one hand. My spelling and clarity may not be up to par right now.)
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To: calcowgirl

WHY NOT try legalizing it and taxing it and see how it works out...the government can always make it illegal again (like being illegal does any good now...)


139 posted on 05/06/2009 8:21:06 AM PDT by The Louiswu (I live vicariously, through myself.)
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To: RobRoy
"Put an Irish pub on one street and a “pothouse” on another and see which one has the most fist fights, ambulances, etc."

THAT is a great idea!
140 posted on 05/06/2009 8:23:11 AM PDT by The Louiswu (I live vicariously, through myself.)
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