Bristol Palin promotes teen pregnancy prevention

Associated Press ^ | 5/5/09

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ANCHORAGE, Alaska (AP)

[Above My Pay Grade]

I am a huge Sarah Palin supporter, but this is a HUGE mistake.

The organization sponsoring the event, markets low-cut, tank tops that read: “I’m sexy enough to keep you waiting.”

Nice, pregnancy prevention by encouraging girls to be teases! /sarc

In 2007 one of this organization’s honorees was Kim Cattrall of “Sex and the City” infamy. Such hypocrisy! Star in a show that encourages young girls to behave like sluts, and then join a campaign against teenage pregnancy.

“Past Honorees have included Senator Hilary Clinton, Katie Couric, Paula Zahn, Governor Thomas Keen, Jane Fonda, Kim Catrall, etc. Past Performers have included Jackson Browne, Jennifer Hudson, Lionel Richie, Teddy Geiger, Jewel, Ashlee Simpson, Destiny’s Child, etc.”

IMO, Bristol should quietly raise her child and continue her education. If she wants to occasionally speak about teen pregnancy prevention, I would suggest she do it with reputable, Christian organizations, that teach abstinence, and only if she is willing to be open about having sinned, and not use soft language, like “bad choices”.

[my_pointy_head_is_sharp]

Bristol Palin promotes teen pregnancy prevention

There are only two ways to prevent teen pregnancy. Either abstinence or contraception. (Once a pregnancy has hapened, that's a different matter.)

She's already said that abstinence is unrealistic (as has her ex-boyfriend), so I guess that leaves contraception for her to talk about.

[arbee4bush]

BS! Why add to the lawyers fund when they would end up divorced and put the kid through that crap. wise up and stop beating up on her. Reading your posts prove that YOU are the most Un Christian person I’ve come across on FR. you sure can spout the Bible versus but you sure don’t have any Christian compassion......

[farmer18th]

BS! Why add to the lawyers fund when they would end up divorced and put the kid through that crap.

What a real testimony to pure Christian faith and hope. Can you indicate the verse in the Bible that admonishes cynical assumption of marital failure? Something like "if a man enticeth a maid and lies with her he shall surely take her to wife, if there is absolutely no danger of divorce?"

Why don't you spend some time looking for that one, you cheap grace Arminian heretic. Jesus said the worst enemies would be inside the church, and you are living proof that sons of the devil live to encourage mediocrity and failure among the saints. Go talk to your father, the father of lies--and get thee behind me.

[farmer18th]

From the referenced organization Bristol is now lending her name to:

The Event to Prevent

Each year The Candies Foundation hosts an annual fundraising event to honor individuals that have done exceptional work for the cause and helped advance the foundation message. Past Honorees have included Senator Hilary Clinton, Katie Couric, Paula Zahn, Governor Thomas Keen, Jane Fonda, Kim Catrall, etc. Past Performers have included Jackson Browne, Jennifer Hudson, Lionel Richie, Teddy Geiger, Jewel, Ashlee Simpson, Destiny’s Child, etc.


Sounds like a real group of winners, Bristol. You're just about as dumb as you look.

[arbee4bush]

You...are one sick dude

[Victoria Delsoul]

There are no doubt dozens, hundreds, thousands, millions of young ladies out there who made it through their teenaged years without getting pregnant. Wouldn't their advice on how they did it be a better message that, "I screwed up and look at me?"

Sometimes people who have carried a particular burden bring extra credibility to the debate.  Bristol isn't talking to old fogies like you, but to those young teens who perhaps are in the fence when it comes to sexual liberation and aren't fully taking into consideration the consequences of their actions.  If Bristol can credibly communicate with them, more power to her. 

[Victoria Delsoul]

Like I said, you never miss a Palin thread that involves sex - that really shows what’s on your mind, and God knows what is lacking in the rest of you!

[farmer18th]

If Bristol can credibly communicate

That would require subject predicate, right? Good luck. She communicates by taking her clothing off, spawning a child, selling the pictures of her baby, and then locking the father out of the house.

Welcome to the brave new world of family values.

[Victoria Delsoul]

How does that make you feel?  Got a little goose bumps while typing it?  Seek help. 

That people fail to meet standards doesn't damn them forever.  Get over it.

[farmer18th]

Like I said, you never miss a Palin thread that involves sex - that really shows what’s on your mind, and God knows what is lacking in the rest of you!

Victoria--you might think that big boobs and good makeup pass for ideas, and in the Obama era, you might be right, but if you really call yourself a conservative, crack a book, (preferably the Bible) and feed your intellect, and your soul. Palin idolatry is just that--idolatry.

Children deserve a mom and a dad. Bristol should know that, and so should you.

[Victoria Delsoul]

Thanks for demonstrating my point. It's you who is fixated with sexual themes, imagery and related fetishes.  Whenever the Palin story shows up on FR, you chronically inject yourself into the debate, dwelling on the sexual aspect of the story and obsessing over the sexual morality of the whole episode.

Nobody says that Bristol's situation is optimal.  Nobody is suggesting that it is even a particularly good situation.  But you continue, curling up into the fetal position and foaming at the mouth, making your case that everything about this story is wrong.  What a strange, strange world view.

So Farmer, you want me to crack open a book? I'm not the one fixated on sex and big boobs - those thoughts are peripheral and totally irrelevant to the subject at hand.

And another thing, I don't idolize anyone but God.  But how would you know?  You are too busy using your “brainpower” to visualize the sizes of Sarah and Bristol's boobs.

[farmer18th]

This thread is about the way a possible presidential candidate handles both her own family problems and what effect the behavior of her children may have upon the way she formulates policy. (We already know, for example, that a "gay" child had the effect of encouraging Dick Cheney to endorse same-sex marriage.) You made our exchange into a "sex" thread by writing this line:

Like I said, you never miss a Palin thread that involves sex - that really shows what’s on your mind

That's exactly the way diseased sodomites stop any reference to their degenerate acts, by accusing their detractors of being sex-obsessed.

You are a joke--on more fronts than one--so I respond to swine as swine deserve. A cursory glance at your posts indicate pretty much your sum total. You would be much more becoming serving punch to the neighborhood kids.

[Victoria Delsoul]

This thread is about the way a possible presidential candidate handles both her own family problems and what effect the behavior of her children may have upon the way she formulates policy. (We already know, for example, that a "gay" child had the effect of encouraging Dick Cheney to endorse same-sex marriage.)

Wrong, this thread is about Bristol promoting teen pregnancy prevention.  Sarah is pro-life and so is her daughter.  Sarah isn't promoting sex outside of marriage.  It is you who is fixated on the sex life of Bristol Palin.  You try to turn every Sarah Palin thread into some kind of condemnation of Bristol (the slut, as you call her), and how it damaged her mother's moral authority and her aspirations to be a GOP candidate.

You can type away from the safety of your PC, trembling and foaming at the mouth, repeating the mantra of 'sinner, sinner' towards Bristol.  It's a free country, but realize that behavior speaks volumes about you, and it isn't flattering.   Maybe you simply can't cope with the fact that nobody is suggesting that Bristol's situation is optimal, or even particularly good.  You're fighting a battle against shadows.  If that excites you, fine - just don't drag everyone else down to your miserable level.

I shouldn't bother replying to your deranged post because you are nothing but a crazy fanatic bible thumper and a hypocrite, to boot!

But just note this - no matter what hatred you spew against Sarah and her daughter, you are just a pea in a pod. What matters is that Sarah is a true, genuine leader, and a force in the GOP with or without your vote. Your opinion of me is worth nothing, except a laugh.

[Texas Eagle]

"Unwed Mother" gotta love the AP, if she were a liberals kid they would be treating her like a martyr.

Nice catch. If this was a Lib's kid she'd be a "single mom". But that begs the question, why is it that "single mom" has a more honorific connotation than "unwed mother"?

[farmer18th]

Wrong, this thread is about Bristol promoting teen pregnancy prevention.

Only in a purely nominal sense. There would be no Bristol thread at all if her mother were not running, de facto, for President. Bristol just happens to be--how do you want me to put it charitably?--what?--a girl who got herself in trouble and who, by virtue of her mother's position, is now exposing herself as a kind of semi-orthodox, waffling (abstience is not realistic, now realistic), extra-biblical spokeswoman against teenage pregnancy.

You seem to want strong, intelligent, attractive female leaders. If I understand your posts here on FR that seems to be kind of your theme song. Great. My advice to you is that leadership of that sort only gets stronger if it reflects classic, western, biblical truth. I was a HUGE supporter of Sarah Palin until I realized her native intelligence, which is formidable, was largely uninformed, (probably because she attends a kind of rattle-the-walls AG church). You simply can't seek to be a moral leader if you don't make moral decisions in your own family. If your family is in the spotlight and is acting irresponsibly, you should make it clear you don't agree with your daughter and her lover's decision. It's as ancient as Jesus, Gloria. Children deserve a mother and a father--and Sarah should say so. Jesus didn't say "what God has joined together let no man put asunder--unless they're nineteen." He said anything else is adultery.

[Victoria Delsoul]

There would be no Bristol thread at all if her mother were not running, de facto, for President.

You seem to want strong, intelligent, attractive female leaders.

Actually, Sarah isn't the de facto nominee for president.

I want strong intelligent leaders, male or female, as long they can articulate the conservative principles of Ronald Reagan.  Reagan, by the way, was divorced, so I suppose by your standard, he would be open to criticism as a candidate on those grounds.  His second wife, Nancy, was 3 months pregnant at the time they were married, too.

If there is a male leader as strong, or stronger than Sarah I will support him wholeheartedly. I don't support a leader based on their sex, but on their intellect, their political ability, and their conservative values.

[farmer18th]

Reagan, by the way, was divorced, so I suppose by your standard, he would be open to criticism as a candidate on those grounds.

He was also a Democrat at one time, and a union leader, but he got over it. It's not about the mistakes you made but about your willingness to call those mistakes what they are. It's also about the courage to face up to detractors and say, "I won't let even my own mistakes or the mistakes of my children unshackle me from my burden of telling the truth." Even if someone had an abortion, if they were to say, "it was one of the worst, most despicable, ugliest sins of my life, and I repent for it; now get out of my way, I'm going to make it very, very difficult for anyone to repeat my mistake."

Do you even comprehend the difference?

His second wife, Nancy, was 3 months pregnant at the time they were married, too.

Keyword there: "married." Maybe Sarah, Levi, and Bristol will learn the same lesson. That would indeed make them "Reaganesque"

[Victoria Delsoul]

You're under the belief that Reagan considered his divorce "one of the worst, most despicable, ugliest sins of [his] life," and that he repented for it?  Do you have any evidence for this position, or is it just a product of your fertile fantasy life?

You are the one having trouble to comprehending, but also your craziness may be contagious, so blabber all you want, just don't expect me to respond to your lunacies.  Enough for one night!

[farmer18th]

Victoria, you really need to stop breathing in the hair spray between posts. I used “despicable” with respect to a hypothetical candidate with abortion in their past, not with respect to Reagan’s divorce. You also didn’t appear to understand the distinction between boasting of weakness and apologizing for it, but you appear to have made up your mind to respond before you read, so I guess that’s understandable.

You obviously won’t take advice from me, but my counsel and prayer would be that you spend less time defending actions you know are wrong, or at least drop the pretense that you act on the basis of faith. It’s a bad witness.