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To: Finalapproach29er

I’m tired of conservatives advocating self-government when they obviously aren’t even close in their own households. Sl*t was too harsh, but she’s a poster child for the welfare state, and for feminism. She should disfellowship the girl until she decides that a father for her child is more important than the $300 grand she got from People magazine.


35 posted on 05/04/2009 10:58:02 PM PDT by farmer18th (If you preach "too big to let fail," you're also preaching "too small to let succeed.")
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To: farmer18th

Levi has cheated on her — the bible lets Bristol out of marriage in this situation. You have to get scissors and cut words out of the bible to claim otherwise. And this would only apply to the situation if Bristol were the political person in question. She’s not and Sarah is. So take the sin the devil has given you to pound her with, and go pound sand instead.


44 posted on 05/04/2009 11:05:20 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Beat a better path, and the world will build a mousetrap at your door.)
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To: farmer18th

Bristol’s a poster child for welfare and feminism? How exactly? Seems to me the family is doing what families have done forever, taking care of their own.

Her mother should “disfellowship the girl” (whatever the hell that means)?


47 posted on 05/04/2009 11:09:46 PM PDT by Twink
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To: farmer18th; All

You mean like Alan Keyes..


259 posted on 05/05/2009 6:36:04 AM PDT by KevinDavis (Now a member of the NRA)
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To: farmer18th

I think self-government was exactly what was happening in the Palin home. I don’t believe that Bristol is taking money from the gov’t to raise her son so I’m not sure about the welfare state comment. And Jesus told the woman to “sin no more” but there is no evidence that he didn’t associate with her. And feminism isn’t a bad word when Sarah Palin is the definition.


375 posted on 05/05/2009 11:19:28 AM PDT by trialbyfire (Black conservatives are people too.)
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To: farmer18th

Here is my unsolicited opinion/observations:

Conservative households are not immune to the vagaries of a difficult life. I know of plenty of good people whose kids turned out to be screwed up; Ronald Reagan and Francis Schaeffer and my grandparents are ones who come to mind immediately.

For whatever reason, the connection between son and parent wasn’t made or strong enough to keep the child from not staying on the straight and narrow. Sarah and her husband apparently still loves her daughter despite her mistakes/failures and is working with her as best she knows how.

Of course there are consequences to bad choices and those should not be circumvented.

OTOH, I can’t help but think about the story of Jesus writing in the sand while the woman accused of adultery awaited to see what he thought her fate should be. She likely had been caught in the act and dragged nude before the rabbi. The crowd around her wanted a stoning, but Christ found another way. A way that called her to repent (”go and sin NO MORE”), but also did not require her to die.

He acknowledged her sin by telling her not to do it any more—and she certainly carried the shame of her actions and embarassment of that predicament for the rest of her life.


423 posted on 05/05/2009 2:53:25 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat (I'm SO glad I no longer belong to the party of Dependence on Government!)
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