Is not this your own preconceived ideas of the LDS?
After all man struggles with his nature, all are subjected to the same challenges for their needs to grow.
Those LDS as well as others who choose to walk the ways of the Lord their burdens will be light.
Matthew 11
28 ¶ Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.
29 Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls.
30 For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.
If you feel that as you stated
MORMONs have the “Holier-than-thee” Gold MEdal!
Could it not be you Elsie are entertaining the green eyed monster instead of the council of the Lord?
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You belittle yourself by showing that you do not know just what JS ‘learned’ to be UNTRUE about PRESBYTERIANism in the 1830’s...
Knowing or not knowing about PRESBYTERIANism has NOTHING to do with my salvation, my salvation comes from God not some tradition of man church in the world which will parish when the earth is translated.
Matthew 11
28 ¶ Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.
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Jesus said, “Come unto ME”
He never said “come unto Joey Smith and the church of Joseph’S Myth”
Jesus said to Resty, “I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life. No man, or woman comes to the Father except by ME” John 14:6
Therefore as you have received Christ Jesus the Lord, so walk in HIM, Colossians 2:6
Elsie: You belittle yourself by showing that you do not know just what JS ‘learned’ to be UNTRUE about PRESBYTERIANism in the 1830’s...
Resty: Knowing or not knowing about PRESBYTERIANism has NOTHING to do with my salvation, my salvation comes from God not some tradition of man church in the world which will parish when the earth is translated.
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It was everything to Joey Smith...
he founded his LDS Inc on that premise...
That Presbyterianism was untrue...
The cornerstone and foundation of the mormon religion...
Is WHAT?
 Matthew 11:28-30
28 Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.
29 Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls. 30 For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light. |
JST etal... Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you much more to DO. |
...my salvation comes from God not some tradition of man church in the world which will parish when the earth is translated. [Restornu]
I'm sorry, Resty, but according to Mitt Romney's father's cousin, Marion G. Romney, who was one of the top three Mormon leaders (First Presidency) in the 1960s, your salvation is indeed only "church-based" and is no more transcendent than that:
"This Church is the ensign on the mountain spoken of by the Old Testament prophets. It is the way, the truth, and the life" (Conference Report, April, 1961, pg. 119).
[Boy, that's "funny." I could have sworn that Jesus Christ reserved for Himself the titles of "I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life" (John 14:6)]
In fact, one of the ways we know that the "salvation" offered by the Mormon church as being a mere man-made tradition is that they insert themselves as the very "saviors" of mankind:
Example #1 -- From 1974 LDS copyrighted book: "When living persons are baptized for the dead, they literally become saviors to others..."
(Don't you see? The problem we're dealing with here is that Mormons place themselves on par with Jesus re: godhood & saviorhood, calling themselves "literal...saviors")
Example #2 -- an LDS "prophet" speaking who was one of Joseph Smith's right hand men, John Taylor: ...we are the only people that know how to save our progenitors, how to save ourselves, and how to save our posterity in the celestial kingdom of God;...we in fact are the saviours of the world..." (Journal of Discourses, vol.6, p.163).
No, Resty: "saviors of the world" are not plentiful (1 John 4:14; John 4:42)
Example #3 -- another LDS "prophet" -- this one a nephew of Joseph Smith who was talking about what LDS do with the genealogical research uncovered: "... mortals have to be saviors on Mount Zion, acting by proxy for the dead." (LDS "prophet" Joseph Fielding Smith, The Way to Perfection, p. 325)
Example #4 -- Taylor again: "We know something about our progenitors, and God has taught us how to be saviors for them by being baptized for them in the flesh, that they may live according to God in the Spirit." (LDS "prophet" John Taylor, March 20,1870, Journal of Discourses, Vol. 14, 3/20/1870)
Example #5 -- the Mormon "why" of genealogy: "We have a great work before us in the redemption of our dead....There are fifty thousand millions of people in the spirit world...Those persons may receive their testimony, but they cannot be baptized in the spirit world, for somebody on earth must perform this ordinance for them in the flesh before they can receive part in the first resurrection and be worthy of eternal life." (LDS "prophet" Wilford Woodruff, JoD, Vol. 22, p. 234)
Example #6: “Some may feel that if they pay their tithing, attend their regular meetings and other duties, give their substance to the poor, perchance spend one, two, or more years preaching in the world, that they are absolved from further duty, but the greatest and grandest duty of all is to labor for the dead!” (Joseph Fielding Smith, Doctrines of Salvation, Vol II, pp 42-44).
So, one LDS "prophet" -- Woodruff, the same one who had the authority to clamp down on polygamy, said before the 1900s ever arrived that there were 50,000 million people in the spirit world awaiting Mormon conversion & salvation...[uh, I've got news...the total has only greatly expanded since then]...
You can't get more appropo verses that's been raised in recent posts than Jesus saying "Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you and learn from me, for I am gentle and humble in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. For my yoke is easy and my burden is light."
(Please drop your "goal" of necro-baptizing billions of souls post-death...Jesus doesn't need savior competition)
29 Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls.
30 For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.
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Christ’s yoke is easy and HIS burden is light.
The LDS burden is VERY HEAVY and the yoke painful. This is true of ANY group that says Christ alone is not enough.
We as unregenerated humans cannot CHOOSE to walk in the ways of the Lord, we walk in his ways because he has ALREADY changed us and made us a new creature (regenerated us) by grace through faith in his FINISHED work on the Cross, not through our own ‘filthy rags’.
ot some tradition of man church in the world which will parish when the earth is translated.
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You mean like the LDS?!? You are backing the wrong horse, Resty.
