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As a Professor, Obama Held Pragmatic Views on Court (barf alert)
New York Times ^ | May 2, 2009 | Jodi Kantor

Posted on 05/03/2009 7:32:36 AM PDT by reaganaut1

Many American presidents have been lawyers, but almost none have come to office with Barack Obama’s knowledge of the Supreme Court. Before he was 30, he was editing articles by eminent legal scholars on the court’s decisions. Later, as a law professor, he led students through landmark cases from Plessy v. Ferguson to Bush v. Gore. (He sometimes shared his own copies, marked with emphatic underlines and notes in bold, all-caps script.)

Now Mr. Obama is preparing to select his first Supreme Court nominee to replace retiring Justice David H. Souter. In interviews, former colleagues and students say they have a fairly strong sense of the kind of justice he will favor: not a larger-than-life liberal to counter the conservative pyrotechnics of Justice Antonin Scalia, but a careful pragmatist with a limited view of the role of courts.

“His nominee will not create the proverbial shock and awe,” said Charles J. Ogletree, a Harvard professor who has known the president since his days as a student.

Mr. Obama believes the court must never get too far ahead of or behind public sentiment, they say. He may have a mandate for change, and Senate confirmation odds in his favor. But he has almost always disappointed those who expected someone in his position — he was Harvard’s first black law review president and one of the few minority members of the University of Chicago’s law faculty — to side consistently with liberals.

Former students and colleagues describe Mr. Obama as a minimalist (skeptical of court-led efforts at social change) and a structuralist (interested in how the law metes out power in society). And more than anything else, he is a pragmatist who urged those around him to be more keenly attuned to the real-life impact of decisions.

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The NYT really lays it on thick here. Rush Limbaugh does a better job exposing Obama's legal philosophy here .
1 posted on 05/03/2009 7:32:36 AM PDT by reaganaut1
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To: reaganaut1
...but a careful pragmatist with a limited view of the role of courts.

Limited meaning.....

.....a hard left, pro world view, anti-Constitutionalist

2 posted on 05/03/2009 7:40:41 AM PDT by SteamShovel (Global Warming, the New Patriotism)
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To: reaganaut1
The author...

Kool aid runs in her veins.

3 posted on 05/03/2009 7:41:31 AM PDT by raybbr (It's going to get a lot worse now that the anchor babies are voting!)
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To: reaganaut1

When will the NYT give it up? Do they really think anyone’s interested in their nonstop propaganda?


4 posted on 05/03/2009 7:43:17 AM PDT by Spok
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To: reaganaut1
He was never a professor.

Obama taught constitutional law at the University of Chicago Law School for twelve years, as a Lecturer for four years (1992–1996), and as a Senior Lecturer for eight years (1996–2004). During this time he taught courses in due process and equal protection, voting rights, and racism and law. He published no legal scholarship, and turned down tenured positions, but served eight years in the Illinois Senate during his twelve years at the university.

5 posted on 05/03/2009 7:43:34 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (American Revolution II -- overdue)
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To: reaganaut1
As far as I know Obama was never a law professor, he was a lecturer. To my knowledge he never wrote a single ‘review’ during his affirmative action stint at Harvard. But I am glad to know that the NYT is really impressed by notes in all caps,

WHY DON'T YOU EDIT THIS GARBAGE BEFORE YOU PRINT IT.

6 posted on 05/03/2009 7:46:37 AM PDT by Old North State
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To: reaganaut1
Curious ... is there any way to verify or disprove that Obama had to take the Illinois bar exam several times before passing, or was it his wife Michelle?
7 posted on 05/03/2009 7:46:57 AM PDT by BluH2o
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To: raybbr

Upon seeing that pic, I was sure she was a transsexual. However, doing a search for “Jodi Kantor” online and reading her bio, other pictures of her look (slightly) better, and I see that she is married and has had a pregnancy. http://www.columbia.edu/cu/alumni/Magazine/Fall2005/Kantor.pdf

Still a leftist loon though.


8 posted on 05/03/2009 7:48:24 AM PDT by Screaming_Gerbil (The light at the end of the tunnel might be an oncoming train...)
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To: reaganaut1

Lets state This Clearly!

OBAMA NEVER WAS A PROFESSOR OF LAW OR ANYTHING ELSE!!!
OBAMA WAS NEVER CLOSE TO EVER BEING ANY KIND OF PROFESSOR OF ANYTHING!!!

OBAMA WAS A LOWLY INSTRUCTOR OF LAW WHO FOR SOME MOST LIKELY SINISTER REASON LOST HIS LAW LICENSE!!

THERE IS A WORLD OF DIFFERENCE IN ACADEMIA BETWEEN BEING A PROFESSOR AND A LOWLY, TWO BIT INSTRUCTOR!! WORSE YET, IS TO MISLEAD AND LIE TO THE PUBLIC ABOUT ONE”S RECORD AND VITAE’!

The NEW YORK TIMES is knowingly Lieing about Obama’s past accomplishmnts which in reality are basically ZERO!


9 posted on 05/03/2009 7:50:07 AM PDT by True Republican Patriot (GOD BLESS AMERICA and Our Last Great President George W. Bush)
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To: reaganaut1

LOL, Obama is going to appoint a Marxist who puts more weight in international law than he does the constitution. There is no doubt about it. Of course from the NYT’s perspective, that is a Moderate.


10 posted on 05/03/2009 7:51:52 AM PDT by Always Right (Obama: more arrogant than Bill Clinton, more naive than Jimmy Carter, and more liberal than LBJ.)
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To: True Republican Patriot

Lying for the affirmative action liar-in-chief is their chosen job. Didn’t you know?


11 posted on 05/03/2009 7:52:01 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: raybbr
The author is either delusional or lying.

Here's what Obama said during the interview cited by Rush:

OBAMA: If you look at the victories and failures of the civil rights movement and its litigation strategy in the court, I think where it succeeded was to invest formal rights in previously dispossessed peoples so that, uh, I would now have the right to vote, I would now be able to sit at the lunch counter and order and -- and as long as I could pay for it I'd be okay. But the Supreme Court never ventured into the issues of redistribution of wealth and sort of more basic issues of political and economic justice in this society.

RUSH: "But the Supreme Court never ventured into the issues of redistribution of wealth and the more basic issues such as political and economic justice in this society." He went on to say, "To that extent..." Well, here. He went on. Rather than me read it to you, let me let you hear this in his own words.

OBAMA: As radical as I think people tried to characterize the Warren Court, it wasn't that radical. It didn't break free from the essential constraints that were placed by the Founding Fathers in the Constitution, at least as it has been interpreted -- and Warren Court interpreted it in the same way, that generally the Constitution is a charter of negative liberties. It says what the states can't do to you, says what the federal government can't do to you. But it doesn't say what the federal government or the state government must do on your behalf. ... I think that there was a tendency to lose track of the political and community organizing and activities on the ground that are able to put together the actual coalitions of power through which you bring about redistributive change. And, uh, in some ways we still suffer from that.
The push is on to make Obama's radicalism normal. He'll appear to move slowly and deliberately--after all, as he told us in one of his bios, you must appear polite to white people. Don't make any "fast moves." Zero will appoint some neo-Marxist like himself and it will be portrayed as a moderate, sensible, reasonable move.

I'm really beginning to hate the people who support the Zero. The taste of Stalinist adulation makes me ill.

12 posted on 05/03/2009 7:53:11 AM PDT by ishmac (Lady Thatcher:"There are no permanent defeats in politics because there are no permanent victories.")
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To: MHGinTN

Schucks! I keep forgeting that it’s their JOBS(three letters) to Lie for ZERO:-) My Sincere Apologies:-)


13 posted on 05/03/2009 8:00:20 AM PDT by True Republican Patriot (GOD BLESS AMERICA and Our Last Great President George W. Bush)
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To: reaganaut1

“Professor”?!?! The only thing he is qualified to be a Professor of is himself.


14 posted on 05/03/2009 8:03:32 AM PDT by mkcc30 ("Millions for defense, but not one cent for tribute.")
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To: Screaming_Gerbil

From the PDF it does look like she was in the late stages of pregnancy at some point.

I wonder if she ‘chose’ to bring the ‘unviable tissue mass’ to fruition?

If not then I’m sure Dr. Tiller in Kansas would have given her a NY Slimes discount.


15 posted on 05/03/2009 8:10:49 AM PDT by zipper
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To: reaganaut1
He's a centrist only in the view of the New York Times. He's a left-wing ideologue to normal folks.

I will give them credit here, though: The only significant source that I have seen for any detail on the Kenyan Clown's teaching career was in this 2008 New York Times article: Teaching Law, Testing Ideas, Obama Stood Slightly Apart.

In particular, that article interestingly enough includes some of the materials from his classes over the years:

Syllabus: Current Issues in Racism and the Law

2003 Final Exam

2002 Final Exam

2001 Final Exam

2000 Final Exam

1999 Final Exam

1998 Exam

1997 Final Exam and its Answer Memo

1996 Final Exam and its Answer Memo


16 posted on 05/03/2009 8:14:47 AM PDT by snowsislander (NRA -- join today! 1-877-NRA-2000)
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To: ishmac
FWIW, here is the audio.
17 posted on 05/03/2009 8:30:42 AM PDT by Lord Basil
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To: reaganaut1
Reading the article this morning the following caught my eye:

“...Mr. Obama often expressed concern that “democracy could be dangerous,” Mr. Stone said, that the majority can be “unempathetic — that’s a word that Barack has used — about the concerns of outsiders and minorities.”

“Unempathetic? Why did the author emphasize that word? Who is Mr. Stone and what are his views? Well, google the word "unempathetic", my FreeRepublic friends, and a magical world opens unto thee! From the Huffington Post, to Greenpeace; "unempathetic" is almost like the mandatory interjected "sort of" of NPR speak.

Well, as Hunter S. Thompson wrote, "when the going gets weird, the weird turn pro."

I think with this Obama group in office, the antecedant has been satisfied...

So, get weird and dive in, Freepers. Because to understand Obama, or have the "Keyes" to Obama, requires some easy fun reading as, getting back to the article, the author supports:

Even as law review president, Mr. Obama de-emphasized his own views and instead made himself a channel for those of others. His decision making was “about the group sentiment and what the group majority might agree to,” said Nancy McCullough, a fellow editor.

18 posted on 05/03/2009 8:35:36 AM PDT by Voter62vb
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To: True Republican Patriot
He was an UNDOCUMENTED Professor which is just as good as a fully tenured professor to the left.
19 posted on 05/03/2009 8:45:15 AM PDT by Kid Shelleen (Barack the Messiah: Never in the field of US politics have so many waited so long for so little.)
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To: snowsislander

Great post, Snowislander.


20 posted on 05/03/2009 8:47:15 AM PDT by Voter62vb
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