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Illegal immigration, Liberal Elites, and Obama
American Thinker ^ | May 03, 2009 | David Paulin

Posted on 05/03/2009 12:29:13 AM PDT by neverdem

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To: Jeff Chandler
The American people voted for open borders and amnesty. They won.

Funny, I didn't see any place to vote against amnesty on my ballot.

Any poll that mentions amnesty as a separate question finds that amnesty loses with the American public.

21 posted on 05/03/2009 6:27:11 AM PDT by slowhandluke (It's hard work to be cynical enough in this age)
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To: Jeff Chandler
The American people voted for open borders and amnesty. They won.

WRONG.

22 posted on 05/03/2009 6:28:21 AM PDT by Just mythoughts (Bama and Company are reenacting the Pharaoh as told by Moses in Genesis!!!!!)
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To: neverdem

Theoligarchy has already decided they want cheap willing labor to care for their lawns. Americans are aware of their rights, won’t take abuse and won’t work for the slave labor wages the “liberals” want to pay. The result is that illegal immigration fills a number of their needs. We will get more of oit because that is what they want and as far as they are concerned public opinion only counts when it supports their agendas.


23 posted on 05/03/2009 7:35:07 AM PDT by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: neverdem

Thanks for the ping!


24 posted on 05/03/2009 9:38:04 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Liz; All

More Obamamania on immigration!

Alejandro Mayorkas picked to head immigration agency
May 1, 2009

[snips]

A former top Los Angeles federal prosecutor who was involved in a Clinton-era clemency controversy has been tapped to head an influential Department of Homeland Security immigration agency.

Alejandro Mayorkas is President Obama’s pick to be director of U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services, which adjudicates a broad range of immigration and naturalization issues and oversees international adoptions, asylum, refugee status and foreign student authorization.

‘Alejandro’s expertise covers a wide array of issues critical to the department, including law enforcement, civil rights, computer crime and international money laundering,’ Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano said in a statement Thursday.

Born in Cuba, Mayorkas was the U.S. attorney for the Central District of California from 1998 to 2001.

Mayorkas also was one of several prominent Southern California political figures who played a role in a 2001 decision by President Clinton to commute a drug dealer’s prison sentence.

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-mayorkas1-2009may01,0,2053675.story


25 posted on 05/03/2009 9:44:07 AM PDT by AuntB (The right to vote in America: Blacks 1870; Women 1920; Native Americans 1925; Foreigners 2008)
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To: RoadTest
The flood of illegals tends to bring their degraded culture with them, threatening the bright and shining nation that drew them, changing the US into the dirty and retarded backwater they left behind. They’re dragging to the US what they’re running away from........

EXCERPT It's an unprecedented scale of immigration .....emanating from the Third World, not Europe, as in the past. The underlying theme of the Times series, "Remade in America," is that America is remaking the immigrants. But that's certainly not the case in Irving, Texas, parts of which now have the shabby look of Mexico.

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Reposting Cong TOM TANCREDO's conversation with Juan Hernandez (Hernandez was McC's Hispanic outreach rep). Hernandez is a dual citizen and headed the Mexican govt's **Ministry of Mexicans Living in the United States. ** Hernandez told Tancredo the purpose of the Mexican govt agency was:

(1) to increase the flow of Mexican nationals to the US to serve Mexico’s needs;

(2) to increase transfers of $50 billion a year (30% of the Mexican GDP);

(3) to alleviate Mexican social instability, and,

(4) to get free training for Mexicans who are expected to repatriate the skills (paid for by US citizens) back to Mexico.

Hernandez supports amnesty. Hernandez told Tancredo: "By populating the US with millions of Hispanics who are tied economically, politically and linguistically to Mexico, we are able to exert enormous influence and pressure on U.S. policy and its dealings with Mexico."

SOURCE http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=33894

26 posted on 05/03/2009 9:51:36 AM PDT by Liz (I was like Snow White, then I drifted. Mae West (on liberalism.)
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To: AuntB
Alejandro Mayorkas is President Obama’s pick to be director of U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services, which adjudicates a broad range of immigration and naturalization issues and oversees international adoptions, asylum, refugee status and foreign student authorization. Mayorkas also was one of several prominent Southern California political figures who played a role in a 2001 decision by President Clinton to commute a drug dealer’s prison sentence.

God help us.

27 posted on 05/03/2009 9:55:57 AM PDT by Liz (I was like Snow White, then I drifted. Mae West (on liberalism.)
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To: neverdem

“For them, illegal immigration has often meant a deterioration of their neighborhoods, public schools, and their quality of life — especially across America’s Southwest”

Destiny. Look, all the politicos tell us this can’t be stopped, that it is ‘Inevitable destiny’....just one ‘superior’ culture taking over one that has been stagnant and must be replaced, right? It’s progress!!!

Just like the indigenous people of this country has been replaced before. Just remember, we ARE the current indigenous tribe...but not for long. History does indeed repeat itself.

c. 1830 -——Elias Boudinot, (aka Buck OOwatee) as Editor of The Cherokee Phoenix, which was published both in English and Cherokee and read in the East and Europe, captured the Cherokee situation in just a few words.

“Perhaps Washington, Jefferson, Madison and Monroe were only tantalizing us when they encouraged us in the pursuit of agriculture and government. Why were we not told long ago that we could not be permitted to establish a government within the limits of any state? The Cherokees have always had a government of their own. Nothing, however, was said when we were governed by savage laws. Others say it is time for the Cherokees to submit to inevitable destiny.
What Destiny? To be slandered and then butchered? Yes, this is the bitter cup prepared for us by a republican and religious government. We shall drink it to the dregs.”


28 posted on 05/03/2009 10:15:09 AM PDT by AuntB (The right to vote in America: Blacks 1870; Women 1920; Native Americans 1925; Foreigners 2008)
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To: Gaffer

Just 2 items in the NAFBPO report today.

Suspect arrested in girl’s hit-run death in Salinas (4 year old)

Fletes is being held without bail at Monterey County jail on suspicion of felony hit-and-run. A jail spokesman said Fletes also is being held on an immigration hold.

http://www.thecalifornian.com/article/20090428/NEWS01/904280310/1002/rss

Marietta, GA — Cobb Police say a man stabbed a 13-year-old girl on Monday in the parking lot of Lincoln Hills Apartment Homes off Windcliff Drive.

Officer Joe Hernandez said Marietta resident Gedioney Ferreira, 23, allegedly attacked and stabbed the girl multiple times when she was getting off the school bus around 2 p.m.

Ferreira is charged with aggravated battery, aggravated assault and cruelty to children in the first degree. He is being held in the Cobb County Jail on $100,000 bond, said Nancy Bodiford of the Cobb Sheriff’s Office.

The U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement Agency has also placed a hold on Ferreira to determine his immigration status, Bodiford said.

http://www.firecoalition.com/forum/yaf_postst5703.aspx


29 posted on 05/03/2009 10:19:53 AM PDT by AuntB (The right to vote in America: Blacks 1870; Women 1920; Native Americans 1925; Foreigners 2008)
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To: Liz

“God help us.”

Destiny. Look, all the politicos tell us this can’t be stopped, that it is ‘Inevitable destiny’....just one ‘superior’ culture taking over one that has been stagnant and must be replaced, right? It’s progress!!!

This isn’t the first time the indigenous people of this country have been replaced because of some group of
elites political desires. Just remember, we ARE the current indigenous tribe...but not for long. History does indeed repeat itself.

c. 1830 -——Elias Boudinot, (aka Buck OOwatee) as Editor of The Cherokee Phoenix, which was published both in English and Cherokee and read in the East and Europe, captured the Cherokee situation in just a few words.

“Perhaps Washington, Jefferson, Madison and Monroe were only tantalizing us when they encouraged us in the pursuit of agriculture and government. Why were we not told long ago that we could not be permitted to establish a government within the limits of any state? The Cherokees have always had a government of their own. Nothing, however, was said when we were governed by savage laws. Others say it is time for the Cherokees to submit to inevitable destiny.
What Destiny? To be slandered and then butchered? Yes, this is the bitter cup prepared for us by a republican and religious government. We shall drink it to the dregs.”


30 posted on 05/03/2009 10:27:29 AM PDT by AuntB (The right to vote in America: Blacks 1870; Women 1920; Native Americans 1925; Foreigners 2008)
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To: slowhandluke
Any poll that mentions amnesty as a separate question finds that amnesty loses with the American public.

Remember the Republican Rule: When you have a winning issue, chicken out and agree with the Democrats.

31 posted on 05/03/2009 10:35:51 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler ("Mr. President, I support you but not your mission. I'm showing my patriotism through dissent.")
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To: AuntB
This isn’t the first time the indigenous people of this country have been replaced because of some group of elites political desires. Just remember, we ARE the current indigenous tribe...but not for long. History does indeed repeat itself.

I don't follow your example. While there is a similarity of change, it's not history repeating itself, except maybe as parody.

The Cherokee leaders didn't decide submission to the USA was a good idea and force it on their people. They didn't have the wherewithal to prevent it.

With any smidgen of backbone, the border could be closed. This is national suicide.

32 posted on 05/03/2009 3:12:13 PM PDT by slowhandluke (It's hard work to be cynical enough in this age)
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To: neverdem; All

The Terry Anderson Show...
Are you stupid ??? Are you mad ???

Terry says the illegal aliens should all go home..

Agree ??? Disagree ??? On the “fence” ????

Call Terry LIVE 9-10 PM PST at (866) 870-57521

LIVE stream at http://krla870.townhall.com/

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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2243451/posts?page=1


33 posted on 05/03/2009 6:18:14 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: slowhandluke

“They didn’t have the wherewithal to prevent it.”

And neither do we.


34 posted on 05/03/2009 9:01:43 PM PDT by AuntB (The right to vote in America: Blacks 1870; Women 1920; Native Americans 1925; Foreigners 2008)
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To: slowhandluke

“The Cherokee leaders didn’t decide submission to the USA was a good idea and force it on their people.”

BTW, the Cherokee leaders submitted to ‘American civilization’ fully 30 years before the Trail of Tears. They were better educated and more eloquent than you or I ever will be. Many were rich. They won supreme court decisions in their favor, but it didn’t matter. Just like it doesn’t matter now. Do you own your property? No. The state does. And I’ve had to uproot and leave my home because of a barrio moving in. Millions of US citizens are having to leave their home for work, yet the aliens and visa holders work in our home towns.

All our protests are as hollow and ineffective as they were 200 years ago and we have no more rights than those folks did. We can’t get the government’s support or protection against invasion any more than they could. And if another amnesty is given, that’s exactly what it’s going to be.


35 posted on 05/03/2009 9:16:37 PM PDT by AuntB (The right to vote in America: Blacks 1870; Women 1920; Native Americans 1925; Foreigners 2008)
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To: neverdem; 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; ...

Ping!


36 posted on 05/04/2009 12:31:25 PM PDT by HiJinx (~ Support Our Troops ~ www.AmericaSupportsYou.mil ~)
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To: AuntB
Thanks for the history refresher.

I don't think that the Cherokee considered themselves to be fully US citizens, but could be wrong.

Any small nation (as I think the Cherokee could be considered) that depended on the goodwill of the US has generally gotten shafted at some point, especially if they had something that some business interest wanted.

37 posted on 05/04/2009 2:51:42 PM PDT by slowhandluke (It's hard work to be cynical enough in this age)
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To: slowhandluke

“I don’t think that the Cherokee considered themselves to be fully US citizens, but could be wrong.”

You’re correct,they considered themselves a sovereign nation/state and the supreme court agreed.

The April 27 segment of We Shall Remain on PBS did a pretty good job on this subject.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2233470/posts


38 posted on 05/05/2009 7:40:59 AM PDT by AuntB (The right to vote in America: Blacks 1870; Women 1920; Native Americans 1925; Foreigners 2008)
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