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Obama's Mistake: Britain Did Torture
Time.com (Swampland) ^ | 04/30/2009 | Michael Scherer

Posted on 04/30/2009 11:49:46 AM PDT by BuckeyeTexan

Last night, Barack Obama said he had recently read an article about Winston Churchill during the London blitz. "Churchill said, 'We don't torture,' when the entire British -- all of the British people were being subjected to unimaginable risk and threat," Obama said. "And then the reason was that Churchill understood, you start taking short-cuts, over time, that corrodes what's -- what's best in a people. It corrodes the character of a country."

It was, perhaps, the most powerful anecdote of the night, and an apparently powerful moral condemnation of President Bush, an admitted admirer of Churchill who kept the British leader's bust in the Oval Office. But it was not entirely true. Churchill may well have said that Britain did not torture, but British archives show clearly that captured Nazis were subjected to harsh treatment in order to extract information during World War II. This morning, Michael Tomasky points to this 2005 story in the Guardian about a secret World War II detention center called the "London Cage":

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bho2009; bho44; bhowaronamerica; britainontorture; britishtorture; churchill; cia; democrats; first100days; londoncage; obama; obamagaffefile; obamatruthfile; torture; waronamerica; winstonchurchill; worldwar2; worldwarii; wot; ww2; wwii
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To: NormsRevenge

...”He’s a rudderless jerk... and an opportunist, nothing more.”...

Barack Obama is, in a nutshell, a product of Affirmative Action preferences who was “educated” in leftist Ivy League institutions that are bastions of groupthink. He seems to have a minimal grasp on history and how it relates to America and vice versa, which is all too typical of his ilk, many of whom have not put in an honest days work and are not in touch with the realities of daily life in America.


21 posted on 04/30/2009 1:14:46 PM PDT by astounded (The democrat party is a clear and present danger to America.)
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To: what's up

Yeah, just like he laughed at tea-party attending Americans.


22 posted on 04/30/2009 1:18:40 PM PDT by Marysecretary (.GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL)
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To: BuckeyeTexan
Obama doesn't care if he speaks incorrectly about history or former leaders. He knows that the majority of his supporters have no idea what is true, and what is not - and more don't really care. He will use any lie he wants to; and these people will rally around him regardless of any proof given to them later.

The Obamamaniacs are so brainwashed and lack the education (because of our socialist schools and colleges) that they are arrogant when told that Obama said something wrong. It is really sad for our country that so many are stupidly following this man like a bunch of lemmings marching off of a cliff into the sea.

23 posted on 04/30/2009 1:24:29 PM PDT by CitizenM ("An excuse is worse than an lie, because an excuse is a lie hidden." Pope John Paul, II)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

Maybe the Bama Lama Ding Dong was thinking of Ward Churchill..


24 posted on 04/30/2009 1:31:40 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: BuckeyeTexan
Click Here For The Fact That Bama Missed
26 posted on 04/30/2009 1:47:26 PM PDT by SirFishalot
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To: hgro
"Only the phony press can make a phony Chicago pol into a phony president."

What more ever need be said?

27 posted on 04/30/2009 1:58:49 PM PDT by StAnDeliver
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To: j-damn
I’m confused, does incinerating an entire German city count as torture or not?

No, I consider it just desserts.

28 posted on 04/30/2009 1:59:45 PM PDT by dfwgator (1996 2006 2008 - Good Things Come in Threes)
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To: BuckeyeTexan
"It was, perhaps, the most powerful anecdote biggest B.S. line of the night,"
29 posted on 04/30/2009 2:00:17 PM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...!!)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

I read an excellent analysis posted on Pat Dollard’s site today, regarding the real issue surrounding Obama’s release of torture memos, his possible motives for allowing prosecutions of former Bush administration personnel, and the ripple effects of doing so. A must read! (This is the first time I’ve tried posting a link. Hope it works, if not, perhaps another freeper with the know-how can post it?) Warning: the comments posted by some of the readers on that site contain foul language. The article is fine, but if offended by foul language, I’d suggest not reading them.

http://patdollard.com/2009/04/obama-torture-memos-and-the-real-issue-no-one-is-talking-about/


30 posted on 04/30/2009 2:03:43 PM PDT by Signolife
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To: BuckeyeTexan

bRack needs a “Clarification Czar.”


31 posted on 04/30/2009 2:27:05 PM PDT by subterfuge (BUILD MORE NUCLEAR POWER PLANTS NOW!!!)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

Reference Bump!


32 posted on 04/30/2009 2:32:48 PM PDT by AuntB (The right to vote in America: Blacks 1870; Women 1920; Native Americans 1925; Foreigners 2008)
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To: a fool in paradise
Obama’s paternal grandfather was a Catholic who converted to Islam (and changed his name to Barack Obama).

Do you have a source/link for that statement?
33 posted on 04/30/2009 3:09:55 PM PDT by Beckwith (A "natural born citizen" -- two American citizen parents and born in the USA.)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

why would the truth every matter to odumbo


34 posted on 04/30/2009 3:13:51 PM PDT by peace with honor ( they)
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Churchill, terrorism, and water-boarding
In The Agora
Posted on 04/29/2009 5:24:51 PM PDT by mnehring
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2240870/posts


35 posted on 04/30/2009 4:37:18 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________ Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: dfwgator

You think Obama would have the stones to incinerate anything besides a Marlboro or some freebase?


36 posted on 04/30/2009 11:10:16 PM PDT by j-damn
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To: Beckwith

If you can trust Newsweak...

http://www.newsweek.com/id/143763

Obama: Christian, Not Muslim
By Richard Wolffe | NEWSWEEK
July 7-14, 2008 issue

“Barack Obama has never been Muslim and never practiced Islam.” (note their first sentence is an outright lie, he practiced Islam when he attended Koranic studies class, something he wrote about in his own book)

“But rumors about his religion intended to frighten some voters persist, and they mostly return to one point of fact: his name. “Barack” is the candidate’s Kenyan father’s name; Obama’s middle name, “Hussein,” is his grandfather’s name. Hussein embraced Islam—after first converting to Christianity under the name “Johnson.” According to Obama’s memoir, Hussein valued discipline and strength and found Christian forgiveness to be sentimental. Obama has described his father as atheist or agnostic...”

You can search for other references.


37 posted on 05/01/2009 7:24:48 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (IRONY - we know more about the First Dog's historical papers than we do of President Barack.)
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To: a fool in paradise
Thanks. I knew he was a Christian and I new his name was Johnson at one time. I've had that on my website for over two years.

I was inquiring about the "Catholic" reference.

Barack Obama's grandfather was Hussein Onyango Obama. He was born about 1895 and died in 1979. He worked for the British colonial government and was a prominent and wealthy farmer.

Grandfather lived for a time in Zanzibar, where he converted from Christianity to Islam. He was one of the first Muslim converts in his village.

"For a brief time, he converted, and even changed his name to Johnson. But he could not understand such ideas as mercy towards your enemies, or that this man Jesus could wash away a man's sins."

Obama's Family


38 posted on 05/01/2009 9:01:13 AM PDT by Beckwith (A "natural born citizen" -- two American citizen parents and born in the USA.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...
Note: this topic is from 4/30/2009.
Thanks BuckeyeTexan.
39 posted on 03/02/2013 8:24:29 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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