Kindergarteners learn the definition of "gay," "lesbian," and "transgender."

http://canadafreepress.com ^ | April 28, 2009 | http://canadafreepress.com

[Maelstorm]

Parents are being purposely excluded from multisexual issues in schools, as seen in mounting evidence from California school districts, the National Educational Association, and more.

Students discuss different kinds of families, including kids raised by a mom and dad, grandparents, and same-sex parents. In all age groups, the multisexual message is being woven into everyday instruction.

“This is a mainstream effort to force parents out of the classroom. If it’s not this way in your school, it is only a matter of time before your school is confronted with efforts to exclude parents,” said Karen England, Executive Director of Capitol Resource Institute.

State law now mandates that schools provide special accommodations for homosexual, bisexual, and transsexual behaviors. San Francisco Unified School District explicitly interprets state law to mean that it does not need to notify parents about multisexual curriculum and activities.

In a website launched just this month, SFUSD wrote, “As long as human sexuality is not the focus of the discussion, parent notification is not required.” It claims a right to teach about same-sex romantic attraction, same-sex parenting, and much more—starting in kindergarten.

“California leads the nation, and on this issue, San Francisco is leading California. Other school districts and influential organizations are pushing to follow the same path,” England said.

“Do you want San Francisco school policies coming to your school district next?” she said.

The NEA issued standards for multisexual issues several years ago, which instruct school employees to “respect confidentiality.” “This includes not telling other colleagues or a student’s parents or guardians that someone has ‘come out’ to you without a specific reason,” it said.

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[silverleaf]

how do you explain homosexuality to a kindergartner without the sexual part?

[ConservativeWarrior]

The best thing you can do about the “public” school is to take your children OUT of them and either educate your own children yourself, or put them in a church or synagogue school.

Yes. Sure we can win the battle by avoiding it! Hooray!

[ConservativeWarrior]

If enough parents do that, I bet public schools will show a renewed interest regarding parents’ wishes in the matter. These creeps have to eat too.

Wrong. If enough parents do that, they libs will get exactly what they want - a total lack of moral opposition.

They want you to shut up and run home. Then they will be free to idoctrinate the vast majority of the US population unopposed.

Thanks for running away and leaving the rest of us to fight in even smaller numbers!

[VRWCmember]

but if people in California are willing to tolerate it I don’t see how the rest of us could or should have any say in it. Amendment X goes both ways.

The reason for concern is this statement right here:

“California leads the nation, and on this issue, San Francisco is leading California. Other school districts and influential organizations are pushing to follow the same path,” England said.

The militant homoerotic nazis are trying to force this on everyone, and they know that San Francisco and California are their base from which to launch their attack.

[massgopguy]

In MA, GLESN representatives do not need to undergo CORI (criminal background checks) to go into schools and talk to little kids about sex. BUT! The Kiwanis Club has to in order to participate in the RIF (Reading is Fundamental) program. MA has stated its priority for children. Sex uber alles! There is only one reason why an adult would want a child to know the salacious details of sex. ONE!

[Lucky Dog]

Unless it is a disease, it doesn’t matter whether homosexual behavior is genetic or not.

Homosexuality is defined practically by behavior, i.e., unless one engages in sexual activity with a member of the same sex, he, or she, is not a homosexual.

Contrary to popular opinion, the term sexual orientation, an expression based exclusively on “feelings,” does not practically define anyone as a homosexual. To contend that only “feelings” can categorically define a person is to maintain that “feelings of “lust” define one as a rapist or “feelings” of “anger” define one as a murderer or “feelings” of “greed” define one as a thief.

“Feelings” are phenomena completely internal to their possessor(s). No human can know any other human's "feelings" without that other human engaging in some behavior from which those "feelings" can be inferred. Therefore, outside of mental health terms, defining a classification identifier, i.e., homosexual, based exclusively on a human's "feelings" makes the term practically meaningless.

Any human behavior (not driven by autonomic or instinctual responses) that is not voluntary is, by definition, a psychosis.

Therefore, homosexual behavior is either a voluntary choice or a psychosis.

If homosexual behavior is a psychosis, then it is validly subject to treatment and possible cure. Consequently, like other psychoses, its sufferers should be given curative therapy whenever possible. If these individuals refuse or reject curative therapy and represent a significant and serious danger to themselves or the public, at large, they should be humanely confined with other dangerous, mentally ill people until they accept and benefit from curative therapy.

If homosexual behavior is a voluntary choice, then it is/should be subject to the same types of societal behavioral regulations/norms/laws as is any other sexual behavior such as pedophilia, pederasty, prostitution, polygamy, polyandry, etc

[abigailsmybaby]

Thanks for posting that. I saved myself a copy but that wasn’t the one I was thinking of.

What I remember was the gay group staging a puppet show basically telling the wonderful story of a gay life (or some such crap). I believe it happened before the Palmdale mess. I used to have a printed copy of the news article about it but threw it away a long time ago. Now I can find no mention of it on the internet.

LOL Maybe I dreamed it. :^\

[ckilmer]

come to think of it. yeah you’re right.

[manc]

Karen is right one only has to look at MA and see how the homos are using the kids to push their agenda just like bozo going to a high school giving a speech.

[scripter]

Therefore, homosexual behavior is either a voluntary choice or a psychosis.

I disagree and here's why:

I think most are under the impression homosexual behavior is a voluntary choice. That is, when people with same-sex attraction engage in sexual behavior with people of the same sex, that action is voluntary. What I think confuses people is homosexuality (the behavior) and same-sex attraction. The former is a choice, the latter, for the vast majority, is not a choice.

Perhaps the issue the nation should be talking about is from where same-sex attraction originates. And the more people realize homosexuals are not born with their attraction to the same sex, the less support they'll have because a higher percentage of the populace will have a better education on the subject.

As I see it, same-sex attraction, or better, how same sex attraction develops may be a psychosis, I don't know for sure. What I know is our sexuality is quite complex and determining why 98% develop opposite-sex attraction and 2% develop same-sex attraction is no simple task because politics appears to trump the science of homosexuality.

[TigersEye]

Sorry, I thought your post was aimed specifically at me. I didn’t realize at the time that you’re just spamming dozens of threads with the same thing.

[Lucky Dog]

Therefore, homosexual behavior is either a voluntary choice or a psychosis.

I disagree and here's why:

I think most are under the impression homosexual behavior is a voluntary choice. That is, when people with same-sex attraction engage in sexual behavior with people of the same sex, that action is voluntary. What I think confuses people is homosexuality (the behavior) and same-sex attraction. The former is a choice, the latter, for the vast majority, is not a choice.

Perhaps, you missed the part of my previous post note below:

Contrary to popular opinion, the term sexual orientation, an expression based exclusively on “feelings,” does not practically define anyone as a homosexual. To contend that only “feelings” can categorically define a person is to maintain that “feelings of “lust” define one as a rapist or “feelings” of “anger” define one as a murderer or “feelings” of “greed” define one as a thief.

Perhaps the issue the nation should be talking about is from where same-sex attraction originates.

Practically speaking, it doesn’t matter a whet where same-sex attraction originates. Does it matter someone’s attraction to the property of others originates? If that individual never steals the property to which he or she is attracted, practically there is no theft, i.e., no problem. Similarly, if one is attracted to a member of the same sex but never acts on his or her attraction, then why should there be any need for the nation to be talking about the attraction?

As I see it, same-sex attraction, or better, how same sex attraction develops may be a psychosis, I don't know for sure.

Again, you may have missed this part of my previous post:

Any human behavior (not driven by autonomic or instinctual responses) that is not voluntary is, by definition, a psychosis.

What I know is our sexuality is quite complex and determining why 98% develop opposite-sex attraction and 2% develop same-sex attraction is no simple task because politics appears to trump the science of homosexuality.

The science of homosexuality is quite simple: Those who are exclusively homosexual behavior practitioners do not reproduce naturally. Therefore, unless homosexual behavior is driven by genetic anomalies, its incidence would totally disappear in a very few generations. Consequently, science dictates the incidence of occurrence in the population would logically be far less than 2%.

If homosexual practitioners reproduce naturally, they must do so with a member of the opposite sex. Therefore, logically, if they can choose to reproduce, they can choose not to be homosexual behavior practitioners.

If homosexual behavior were driven, i.e., the practitioner has no control over his or her behavior, then the condition is a psychosis.

What are you having trouble understanding about the situation?

[impimp]

Yes - cede the public square to the libs. Trying to make the public square, or public schools, conservative is like trying to push a string. PUBLIC SCHOOL by definition is not conservative. The way I see it people should be responsible for their own kids education. I would love to see the public schools of America defunded.

[ExTxMarine]

I have been saying this for years! I “love” all 120+ Marines with whom I went to combat, but I am NOT a homosexual - I didn’t have sex with any of them! This is about “coming out of the closet” into my living room and expecting me to say, “Oh, that seems normal!”

We are NOT our sex life! We are not our jobs! We are a complex system that coagulates all our being and feelings and experiences into the person that we become! I say it all the time, you don’t have to go back to the closet, but please go back to your own bedroom!

[Lucky Dog]

...you don’t have to go back to the closet, but please go back to your own bedroom!

Your request is being ignored by the homosexual community. They are demanding

• we (the normal population) recognize so-called gay marriage to the detriment of an institution that has existed for millennia.
  
• we allow our very young children be told that their filthy, disease-ridden lifestyle is normal and that we (the normal population) pay for the public school propaganda campaign with our own tax dollars.
  
• that they be afforded special legal rights and protections because of their poor choices in sexual behavior patterns.
  
• that we divert millions of dollars in medical research to HIV/AIDS which affects only a tiny percentage of the total population (however, that fraction is more than 80% homosexual practitioners or those share drug needles with them).

In short, the homosexual behavior practitioners are not doing either: going back to the closet, or their own bedrooms. In fact the case is just the opposite.

Consequently, the question becomes what are the normal citizens going to do about it?

[Outership]

Children are not pawns in a political battle, and homeschooling them does not prevent parents from voting on school issues and donating money and time to change the system. Also, children do not need to be subjected to the public school system to understand the difference between right and wrong and how to stand by their morals... that is what parents are for.

Nothing good will come from giving a child to the public school system.

[scripter]

Perhaps you didn't understand what I said in post 29. I'll shorten and reword it.

Since homosexuals have been saying for decades they are born that way, that is, born with their same-sex attraction, yet science doesn't support the born that way theory; educating the nation as to what science actually says on the matter is tantamount in fighting this culture war.

[KarinG1]

If I remember correctly the people of California didn’t have a choice.

Sure they do. It's called Texas. ;-}~

[pandoraou812]

I was really upset when schools in NJ started to show the gay movie, Its Ok to Be Gay. I went right to the principle & she & I talked. There were no plans for our school to show it...yet. I asked about the chance of it being shown & the principle said if the BOE decided to show it that I could opt out of Sassy seeing it but that the other kids might make fun of her. Hmmm where is the anti bullying act now? I tried getting the PTO involved but the sheeple in there thought I was crazy. I was told children need to be taught about gays & this was from parents! So I said just what I posted before then tell the kiddies the whole d@mn truth about being gay, what it really involves. Don’t sugar coat it & dance around it. Of course parents were outraged at that. Well so was I. Don’t tell half truths to children. To me that is lying. Sex ought to be taught by parents IMHO not teachers. There is no need for gay to be in grade schools. I don’t think there should be gay clubs in high school either. Teenagers can keep their sex life out of school & be private about their choices. You go to school to learn, not learn it is ok to be gay... Now the gays want it to be a hate crime if you are against them vocally....Well I find it to be criminal to teach my child about their disgusting way of life & I refuse to send my child to a public school again. The school ought to mind it’s own business where sex, gay or not is involved. They are over stepping their bounds IMHO.